[PL25] SANGPOMM @ Stars

[Priidix]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

Ma raiseks turni kindlalt, kuna FD+SD on lauas. As played paneks väikse beti siiski (1-3$) ja foldiks shovele?

[timz0333]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

C-bet flop, inimestel on väga suuri probleeme 3bet potis paaride foldimisega.

[Cypher0]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

Bet flop, bet/raise turn kindlasti, et vältida olukordi, kus sa riveris nüüd oled.

[SANGPOMM]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

jep, tagantjärgi ise ka mõtlen et micro limiit,et kõik betid võiksid max value peale olla. Aga vahest lihtsalt tekib kiusatus slowplayda..

[SANGPOMM]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

Sess läks hästi aga 1 muret tekitav käsi. Kuidas käituda ? vastased mõlemad vaalad loose passive stattidega ja poolikute stäkkidega
$0.08/$0.16 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG SuperHadron ($16.95)
UTG+1 bigm2261 ($5.68)
MP1 marcob84 ($15.95)
MP2 linar4ik441 ($10)
CO Djig1t ($31.93)
BTN chatillo777 ($34.42)
SB Hero ($28.12)
BB Kamino_HK ($13.38)

Pre-Flop: ($0.24, 8 players) Hero is SB Q K
1 fold, bigm2261 raises to $0.56, 1 fold, linar4ik441 calls $0.56, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.48, 1 fold

Flop: 8 Q 4 ($1.84, 3 players)
Hero checks, bigm2261 bets $1.32, linar4ik441 calls $1.32, HERO???

[SANGPOMM]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

Sellised käed on alati kõige raskemad, mis käed meid biidivad, mis mitte? OT: Kui palju on muidu optimaalne check raise stat ning squuze?
$0.08/$0.16 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG supabo2 ($10.75)
UTG+1 Hero ($20.70)
MP1 soeka20 ($15.44)
MP2 tomiker ($12.80)
CO valahu78 ($16.64)
BTN Kandid1401 ($16)
SB juni0rZ ($19.21)
BB Maks 0001 ($12.80)

Pre-Flop: ($0.40, 8 players) Hero is UTG+1 Q Q
[tomiker posts $0.16]
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.64, 3 folds, Kandid1401 calls $0.64, 2 folds

Flop: 9 6 5 ($1.68, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.64, Kandid1401 raises to $2.40, Hero calls $1.76

Turn: 3 ($6.48, 2 players)
Hero checks, Kandid1401 bets $4.16, Hero calls $4.16

River: 2 ($14.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.16, Kandid1401 goes all-in $8.80, Hero ???

[kjmrc]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

Foldiks ära. Siin võib vastas olla 99/66/55/78/96/65 jms.. Board ka suht kohutav, et riveri ai kindlasti instamuck.

[ristijeesus]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

Mis krdi bet see sul flopis ja riveril on? B/f flop. B tähendab korralik bet, mitte selline sitanikerdis nagu praegu.

[kjmrc]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

Rofl, ei näinudki neid bette.. tõesti.. flopi bet kindlasti suurem ja mis sa seal riveril teed? :D Nii võib olla, et vastane shoveb oma missed drawiga, sest sa mängid lihtsalt lolli :D

[pikk28]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

Mis krdi bet see sul flopis ja riveril on? B/f flop. B tähendab korralik bet, mitte selline sitanikerdis nagu praegu.

jap, eriti nii märjal flopil. juba mitmes käsi kus riveris nagu induced, aga siis küsid mida teha :) see 0,16 bet ju sama nagu check :)

[HerrJanks]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

Ühe chipi bettimisel riveris on mõte täitsa olemas teatud boardidel ja teatud käega aga flopi cbet size on küll awful IMO

[pikk28]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

Ühe chipi bettimisel riveris on mõte täitsa olemas teatud boardidel ja teatud käega aga flopi cbet size on küll awful IMO

viitsid too näide 1 chipi bettimisel riveril

[Priidix]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars



$50.00 Pot Limit Hold'em - 8 players

UTG: $50.00
UTG+1: $40.04
MP1: $35.63
Hero (MP2): $51.23
CO: $50.00
BTN: $54.08
SB: $19.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP2 with A 9
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, 4 folds, MP1 calls $1

Flop: ($3.75) 4 J 2 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($3.75) 8 (2 players)
MP1 bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($4.75) 3 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50

Final Pot: $5.75
MP1 mucks 5 Q
Hero shows A 9
Hero wins $5.49
(Rake: $0.26)

[pikk28]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

haha :)
aga noh käe kulg muidugi erineb nagu siga ja kägu

[HerrJanks]

Re: SANGPOMMi päevik NL10 @Stars

Leatherassi raamatust üks play

One of my favorite plays is one I call, “checking with a chip.”
This play doesn’t come up very often. But when it does, it can be
a great way to get to a showdown or gain a wealth of information
on the cheap.
Let’s say we’re playing a 5/10 NL table and you are dealt AcJd
in the big blind. Your opponent raises from the button to $40.
Everyone else folds and you call in the big blind.
The pot is $85 and you go to the flop heads up, each with 100
big blind stacks. The flop comes down 6dJsQd. You decide to
lead out for $60 and your opponent calls. With the pot at $205
the turn brings a 2h and you again decide to bet the turn. You
bet $150 on the turn and your opponent calls.
The river brings a 3h and now you are in a very tricky spot on
the river. Your opponent can have any number of hands, and
all of your standard options don’t sound very good. If you make
a standard two-thirds pot bet on the river, you may very well
just be value betting yourself, as it’s a distinct possibility your
opponent has a better hand than you.
If you check the river and your opponent bets, you have no idea
whether he has a busted draw like KT, T9, or a flush draw. He
might also be value betting a top-pair type of hand that narrowly
beats your second-pair top kicker. You may end up making the
right decision by either calling or folding, but it certainly won’t
be made with any great deal of confidence.
But what if you simply bet one chip ($10) on the river? If you
are called by a hand like KQ, then you only lost one big blind.
If he calls with a worse-made hand, he likely would’ve checked
the river if checked to, or folded to a two-thirds pot bet on the
river. You end up $10 richer in those cases.
Given the action in the hand so far, it is very unlikely that your
opponent is slow-playing a very strong hand. Very rarely do
players slow play in spots when the board is so draw heavy. So the
top end of his range of hands that he can have is almost certainly
a hand like KQ or QT. These two hands are very unlikely to raise
the river for value, so you can be nearly certain that if you bet
one chip on the river and get raised, it is because he has one of
his busted draws. In that case you should beat him into the pot
and call his river raise no matter what size he makes it — even if
it’s an all-in wager.

teksti on veel, aga põhipoint on siin...
väga heade vastaste vastu ei ole see ilmselt optimaalne mäng, aga micros, low limiitides pole neid mängijaid...