**** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia ***

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  • VisaHing
    mees nagu orkester
    • Dec 2009
    • 6718

    #61
    Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

    Aga muidu mängida sellega rahaga saab jah ?
    Lennake kõik high stakesi oma rollidega kui saab. Play money pmst.

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    • antnx
      Pokkerihai
      • Oct 2008
      • 3102

      #62
      Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

      Jälgin koguaeg 2+2 foorumit ja see on puhtalt spekulatsioonide põhjal tehtud uudis. Tõsi downsizing ja muud asjad on läbi viidud aga hetkel on väga vara mingeid järeldusi teha. Peame ootama.

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      • pikk28
        Klubi Liige
        • Oct 2008
        • 6695

        #63
        Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

        Algselt postitas antnx Vaata postitust
        Jälgin koguaeg 2+2 foorumit ja see on puhtalt spekulatsioonide põhjal tehtud uudis. Tõsi downsizing ja muud asjad on läbi viidud aga hetkel on väga vara mingeid järeldusi teha. Peame ootama.
        eks ta nii ole jah.

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        • antnx
          Pokkerihai
          • Oct 2008
          • 3102

          #64
          Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

          Lingin siia 2+2 teemad kust saab vajalikku infot ja muud juttu
          http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/56.../index167.html
          ja
          http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29.../index142.html

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          • antnx
            Pokkerihai
            • Oct 2008
            • 3102

            #65
            Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

            elevengrover's post from NVG

            UB/AP is not declaring bankruptcy based on the information made available. The company jettisoned one large bondholding group last year for UB software/customer lists, jettisoned a second larger bondholding group this year, reduced staff to skeleton levels and have several if not all company accounts frozen by the Department of Justice.

            The second bondholder (Madeira) is facing liquidation because UB/AP told them there would be no more payments. Bondholder members have looked into UB/AP financials with concern because of specious expense items suggesting principals earned money using questionable methods. Madeira has no assets and apparently no funds/taste to finance a complicated international legal fight for any UB/AP assets. UB/AP has not made public any financials.

            The company structure is hella-complicated, but the beard/shell/face is based in Antigua. Actual controlling corporate entities may reside in the Antigua, BVI, Panama, Belize, Malta or others.

            IDS, the customer service arm based in Costa Rica, terminated some 300+ employees. In CR, companies are required to keep ~21 days x each yr worked as severance reserves. Rough math works out to approx 2.5M and the Rimola email is saying 2.75M. The termination notice says liquidation reserves have been provided to Rimola, the emails suggest there is/was a hiccup in the deposits. The emails also suggest some payroll is also involved though this number would be much smaller and likely account for the difference above. More important is whether Rimola follows through on his threat to release company info if reserves are not provided. More than one contact has suggested Rimola is not to be trusted over other owner/founders as to the whereabouts of funds.

            The St Pete article stated a 2nd server farm was built in Panama in 2006/07 in case UIGEA involved losing the Kahnawake assets, unless this array has been mirrored with hardware/software updates over the years, it would probably not be able to take over the sites and would not be helpful from an unlicensed jurisdiction far away from large North American Internet backbone traffic. There is nothing at present to suggest the site will not continue to operate from the Kahnawake reserve.

            The termination memo mentioned some employees would be rehired for a new, smaller company which apparently has begun.

            Pokerscout continues to show over 500 average cash game players or roughly 1/4 of previous traffic. Depending on the time of day, these players seem to be at least 50/50 American. If the company finds processing options, 2p2 threads show clearly some players would probably continue to support the site going forward.

            Affiliates have reported missed payments from UB/AP and have suspended rakeback payouts. UB/AP says payments will resume shortly.

            MSNBC, Pokernews and others are misreporting the story as an UB/AP bankruptcy.

            The DoJ has seized both operational and processing accounts from UB/AP and appear to have gained control of at least some player funds though as has been noted they have denied this.

            UB/AP has not made a deal w/DoJ like FT/PS for domain access and the ability to pay from remaining open accounts because they are heavily dependent on US customers.


            Parim info senini

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            • ment52
              Politseidokumendiga kusjuures!
              • Oct 2008
              • 1270

              #66
              Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

              Ma loen sealt teemast, et sul 50k AP-s?? ise olid nl50 reg?

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              • Romka
                Pokkerihai
                • Mar 2009
                • 1544

                #67
                Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

                Rahapesu ofc.

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                • pikk28
                  Klubi Liige
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 6695

                  #68
                  Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

                  mis krdi listi nad seal kokku panevad?
                  ja romka siin teemas pole praegu tõesti mõtet miskit nalja teha

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                  • VisaHing
                    mees nagu orkester
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 6718

                    #69
                    Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

                    Algselt postitas ment52 Vaata postitust
                    Ma loen sealt teemast, et sul 50k AP-s?? ise olid nl50 reg?
                    Kaevur ka ütles, et kellegil eestlasel 50k$ seal lukutaga :(


                    Muidu Phil Hellmuth ka vist kuidagi seotud UB/AB-ga i guess?
                    Promob neid or somt.
                    Lõuxi ei karda ta nüüd saada tänaval :D?
                    Last edited by VisaHing; 05.05.11, 17:54.

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                    • valustyng
                      Õpihimuline Mängur
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 450

                      #70
                      Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

                      phil ei ole seotud pikemat aega enam ub-ga

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                      • antnx
                        Pokkerihai
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 3102

                        #71
                        Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

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                        • ahti2000
                          Julm Donk
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 33

                          #72
                          Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

                          jjeee babe, limiiti on vähemalt tõstetud, äkki polegi asi nii hulll

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                          • pikk28
                            Klubi Liige
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 6695

                            #73
                            Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

                            wait wat? 1000 VISALE? wow, peab pühapäeavani kannatama........

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                            • pikk28
                              Klubi Liige
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 6695

                              #74
                              Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

                              May 05, 2011 15:59 ET
                              Blanca Games Issues Statement on Restructuring

                              Absolute Poker and UB to Focus on Non-U.S. Business

                              ST. JOHN'S, ANTIGUA and BARBUDA--(Marketwire - May 5, 2011) - Blanca Games Inc. ("Blanca"), operator of online poker rooms Absolute Poker and UB, issued the following statement today:

                              As previously stated, Absolute Poker and UB ceased their U.S.-facing operations due to recent legal developments in the United States. The company is currently restructuring and is focusing its resources on consolidating its non-U.S., rest-of-the-world operation and software business. In order to have a more efficient and successful future business, an immediate need to downsize and streamline operations significantly at both online poker rooms has been required. Absolute Poker and UB continue to operate their non-U.S.-facing business.

                              This decision comes after considerable review and analysis of the impact that 'Black Friday' has had on the business as a whole. The workforce has been liquidated, and the process of rehiring approximately 20% of staff in key positions has commenced. All affected employees have been informed of this necessary restructure.

                              A company spokesperson said: "We regret that we have been compelled to take these actions. We have worked tirelessly to create a truly amazing company that is filled with extraordinary people. We have always been and still remain fully committed to our employees and players. At the same time, we are confident that this restructuring will strengthen the company and its future."

                              The Company spokesperson also addressed erroneous reports that Blanca has filed for bankruptcy. The apparent confusion over this issue stems from the fact that Blanca recently informed a debt holder, Madeira Fjord, that it was terminating debt payments to, and its relationship with them. As a result, Madeira Fjord apparently filed a notice of bankruptcy in Norway. This notice has no negative impact upon Blanca, the operating company, or its brands. As stated previously, Absolute Poker and UB continue to operate their non-U.S. facing business around the world.

                              For non-U.S. players, Absolute Poker and UB have increased their maximum withdrawal limits to $1000 for Visa withdrawals and $500 for all other methods. The number of transactions being processed per day has been significantly increased as well. Players are still restricted to one transaction per week, but we are working to return non-U.S. withdrawals to normal service levels as quickly as possible.

                              As confirmed earlier this week, the company's legal counsel is in continuing discussions this week with the U.S. Attorney's office to formalize an agreement that would facilitate the return of funds to U.S. players.

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                              • ranka
                                Miljon Põhjust Kodus Olla
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 36444

                                #75
                                Re: **** Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet (Cereus Network) - küsimused, probleemid siia

                                Algselt postitas ahti2000 Vaata postitust
                                jjeee babe, limiiti on vähemalt tõstetud, äkki polegi asi nii hulll
                                Jup. Hetkel väga segane olukord ja hoian pöialt, et kõik (eriti eestlased :P) oma rahad kätte saaksid. Esmapilgul tundub, et huvi neil raha saata on ja töötajate arvu vähendamine tundus nii või naa suht loogiline samm kui enamus mängijatepagasist läinud. Muideks üks foorumivend (kui tahab, outigu end ise) sai ka esimese $500 kande kätte.

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