[PL25] SANGPOMM @ Stars

[muttaja]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

3bet pottides mine ikka AA/KK lõpuni välja. Kui saad suhu, siis bad beat. Mina küll ei suuda villast seti/mingi muu jubeduse peale panna.

Ehk siis 3bet potis riveril bet-fold ässadega tundub minu jaoks üpris jube.

[kjmrc]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

Üsna mõttetu bettida jah ja veel nii väikselt kui niikuinii raise peale foldid, burning money (2. käsi)

[SANGPOMM]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

Üsna mõttetu bettida jah ja veel nii väikselt kui niikuinii raise peale foldid, burning money (2. käsi)

kuidas ise oleksid teist kätt pelind+

[kjmrc]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

Pre $1.50
Flop $3
Turn $6-7 on fine
River on üsna halb, vbast isegi ck-calliks.. Aga kindlasti ei paneks mingit 1/5 psb sinna.

[HerrJanks]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

pre avad 6bb'd?

[Fabulous]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

pre avad 6bb'd?

Kui tegemist on fishiga, kes nagunii maha calliks pre-flop võib ju AA'ga suuremalt bettida.

[kjmrc]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

3x + 3 limperit = $1.50

[ristijeesus]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

PL laudades saab panna niipalju kui potbet nupp lubab :)

[kjmrc]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

PL laudades saab panna niipalju kui potbet nupp lubab :)

True, ei vaadanud, et PL laud.

[SANGPOMM]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

Privetik! Mäng sujub hetkel ilusti. Alati märgin sessi kõrvale suuremaid kaotusi võite ja raskeid käsi. Aga neid tuleb tuleb üsna palju ja siis mõtlesin et proovin rohkem kaotavaid/probleemeseid käsi siis postitada.

Preagu 2 kõige raskemat kätt on JJ ja QQ. Neid ma ei oska 3bet pottides absoluutselt mängida. Eriti just kui flopi flop on 249 sodi.

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG jobaluk ($14.79) 59bb
UTG+1 3a_6eJIapycb ($33.62) 134bb
MP valgol ($16.57) 66bb
CO papatango123 ($26.64) 107bb
BTN Hero ($33.04) 132bb
SB Alexybull ($37.64) 151bb
BB typ6oky3mu4 ($37.38) 150bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 7 players) Hero is BTN Q Q
jobaluk calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, 1 fold, typ6oky3mu4 raises to $3, jobaluk folds, Hero calls $1.90

Flop: 8 9 7 ($6.35, 2 players)
typ6oky3mu4 bets $4, Hero calls $4

Turn: 7 ($14.35, 2 players)
typ6oky3mu4 bets $8, Hero ????

Kas siin pigem mõtekam flop raise? samas kui raised siis oleme pm pot commited, ja kant homosi seis jälle.
callida flop, lootes et äkki ta turni checkib ja saame odavalt showdownile?

Või kui neid käsi mängida OOP. Tihti peale tundub et lihtsalt 2nd barrel on burning money. sest riveril on juba raha niipalju sees et raske on fold nuppu leida..

Või äkki keegi oskab mingit head artiklit 3bet pottide kohta anda? :)

[pikk28]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

esiteks oled sa vastasega deep
teiseks raise ei anna sulle flopis midagi v.a. et ta võib foldida käed, mida biidid ja millega ta võib turnis edasi bettida (JJ, TT, A9 vahel)
ma callin ka turni siin

[HerrJanks]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

3bet pot oleneb täiesti vastasest kelle vastu sa mängid, aga üldiselt callin siin pea alati all the way sellega, ei raise sest raise sunnib ta bluffrange foldima...

[SANGPOMM]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

dongi vastu min 3beti callin alati

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Stacks:
CO Assoluto85 ($13.23) 53bb
BTN Pavel_301356 ($10) 40bb
SB HL118d ($15.31) 61bb
BB Hero ($30.38) 122bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 4 players) Hero is BB A J
Assoluto85 calls $0.25, 1 fold, HL118d calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1, Assoluto85 raises to $1.75, HL118d folds, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: 7 3 4 ($3.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $2, Assoluto85 raises to $9.58, Hero raises to $17.16, Assoluto85 goes all-in $1.90

Turn: 10 ($26.71, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: 5 ($26.71, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $26.71
Assoluto85 shows high card King
K J
Hero shows high card Ace
A J

Hero wins $31.39 (net +$12.48)

Assoluto85 lost $13.23
HL118d lost $0.25

missclick flopil
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Stacks:
UTG EnergyOpt ($12.60) 50bb
UTG+1 lss11013 ($25.93) 104bb
MP1 AVAV777 ($21.80) 87bb
MP2 Brcek ($14.13) 57bb
CO stykumyku ($25.37) 101bb
BTN KRA$AWA_iOBA ($10.75) 43bb
SB k0ngen ($28.92) 116bb
BB Hero ($25) 100bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is BB 4 4
2 folds, AVAV777 raises to $0.85, Brcek raises to $1.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.25, AVAV777 folds

Flop: 4 9 4 ($3.95, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.25, Brcek calls $0.25

Turn: 2 ($4.45, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.75, Brcek raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $8.25, Brcek raises to $11, Hero raises to $13.75, Brcek goes all-in $1.38

River: 6 ($29.21, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $29.21
Brcek shows two pair, Queens and Fours
Q Q
Hero shows four of a kind, Fours
4 4

Hero wins $29.27 (net +$13.77)

AVAV777 lost $0.85
Brcek lost $14.13

Mõtlesin thin valuet võtta
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Stacks:
UTG longuuu ($14.38) 58bb
UTG+1 Knochenfabri ($25.83) 103bb
MP1 Aleksei447 ($3.86) 15bb
MP2 tolisap ($12.20) 49bb
CO Dimon_55_77 ($25) 100bb
BTN bounce90210 ($10) 40bb
SB mazefaka007 ($18.59) 74bb
BB Hero ($38.58) 154bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is BB Q K
3 folds, tolisap raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: 7 2 Q ($1.60, 2 players)
Hero checks, tolisap bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: 2 ($3.60, 2 players)
Hero checks, tolisap bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4, tolisap calls $2.50

River: Q ($11.60, 2 players)
Hero bets $3.25, tolisap goes all-in $6.45, Hero calls $3.20

Final Pot: $24.50
Hero shows a full house, Queens full of Deuces
Q K
tolisap shows two pair, Queens and Tens
10 10

Hero wins $23.40 (net +$11.20)

tolisap lost $12.20

cold 3bet callis, teadsin et seal on kas 99-TT
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Stacks:
UTG makcum ka364 ($15.90) 64bb
UTG+1 Calvinsay ($9.65) 39bb
MP1 stykumyku ($25) 100bb
MP2 darsy88 ($8.44) 34bb
CO AVAV777 ($27.14) 109bb
BTN W1zard2008 ($10) 40bb
SB Hero ($35.38) 142bb
BB kaine_93 ($27.68) 111bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is SB J J
1 fold, Calvinsay calls $0.25, stykumyku raises to $1, 1 fold, AVAV777 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.50, 1 fold, Calvinsay folds, stykumyku folds, AVAV777 calls $3.50

Flop: 4 2 6 ($10.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $6, AVAV777 goes all-in $22.64, Hero calls $16.64

Turn: J ($55.78, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: 7 ($55.78, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $55.78
AVAV777 shows a pair of Nines
9 9
Hero shows three of a kind, Jacks
J J

Hero wins $53.78 (net +$26.64)

stykumyku lost $1
AVAV777 lost $27.14
Calvinsay lost $0.25

Ainuke küsimusi tekitav käsi oli see. Villane on pasiivne donk 60/32/agg1.2/3bet 11,8/160h kelle 3bet range on väga lai. Mis käe peale ta seal panna? check-check või bet for value? Kas saaksime nt QQ-KK foldima?

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Stacks:
CO Buta82 ($25) 100bb
BTN Hero ($25) 100bb
SB Dima3003 ($17.79) 71bb
BB Animal_077 ($24.09) 96bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 4 players) Hero is BTN J J
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Animal_077 raises to $1.45, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: 2 A 4 ($3, 2 players)
Animal_077 bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: A ($5, 2 players)
Animal_077 checks, Hero bets $2.75, Animal_077 calls $2.75

River: 8 ($10.50, 2 players)
Animal_077 checks, Hero???,

[HerrJanks]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

Coldcallida võib ka AA või KK, sest muidu ta reedaks kohe oma käe ära kui muidu wide rangega ei 4beti ja flattimine on excellent, sest paljud panevad ta nagunii aind 99-QQ peale mis on enamasti vb õige.

[SANGPOMM]

Re: SANGPOMM -NLPL25@ stars

Võib küll, aga seda donk ei mõtle üldjuhul nii oma AA-KKga, dongild tahavad ikka samamoodi pre sisse saada. eeldan et siukest metat veel nl25 ei tehta :)