[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Ma ise lõpetasin ära, kuna leidsin, et see ei mõju mängule hästi. Muudab laisaks, robotlikuks. Laudade valik kaob täiesti ära. Kui sa ütled, et raske laudu kokku saada, siis võta mitu limiiti, fullring ja 6max mõlemad jne.

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Viimased päevad nulli ümber tiksunud. Eile-üleile kerged miinused, täna kerge pluss. Teen suht ok mängu, aga hiiterit lihtsalt pole kuskilt võtta :P

1. Tundmatu fišši vastu. Suht loll koht. Pikas perspektiivis on vb parem foldida.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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CO: $101 (101 bb)
BTN: $102.73 (102.7 bb)
SB: $63.08 (63.1 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (UTG): $100 (100 bb)
MP: $100.68 (100.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K J
Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9) 8 8 9 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($9) J (3 players)
SB bets $2, BB folds, Hero calls $2

River: ($13) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $58.08 and is all-in, Hero calls $58.08

Results: $129.16 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: 8 8 9 J 8
SB showed K J and won $63.51 ($0.43 net)
Hero showed K J and won $63.50 ($0.42 net)


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2. Kahtlase regulari vastu. Minu meelest on tegu lihtsalt juhmi ja agressiivse tegelasega. Estpatrick oskab ehk kommenteerida: The.LacieK (panin ka punkti vahele, et ennast guugeldadades üles ei leitaks:P)

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BB: $117.06 (117.1 bb)
UTG: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $64.59 (64.6 bb)
CO: $158.76 (158.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $160.80 (160.8 bb)
SB: $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6 A
3 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, SB folds, BB raises to $7.50, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($15.50) 6 6 4 (2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($31.50) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $16.50, Hero calls $16.50

River: ($64.50) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $37, Hero raises to $128.80 and is all-in, BB calls $48.06 and is all-in

Results: $234.62 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 6 4 2 3
BB showed Q J and lost (-$117.06 net)
Hero showed 6 A and won $231.82 ($114.76 net)

[Owner85]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

viimane käsi,ma ei saa aru tema riveri callist,kas mingite tugevate medikamentide meelevallas vms?

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Vot ei tea. Peab ikka päris õudne tilt olema. Varem olen täheldanud, et tegu on lihstalt liiga loose'ilt stäkkiva agro regulariga.

[ESTPatrick]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

olen temaga mütanud küll, kuid hetkel ei meenu suurt midagi tema kohta peale selle, et huias mind eelmine sess pf koguaeg ja ma aina foldisin oma rämpsu. ilmselt on miski note ka olemas.

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Ühe fišši vastu jooksin päris kenasti täna:

1.

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Hero (BB): $320.42 (320.4 bb)
UTG: $101.50 (101.5 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $97.50 (97.5 bb)
BTN: $112 (112 bb)
SB: $90.66 (90.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 7
4 folds, SB raises to $2, Hero raises to $7, SB calls $5

Flop: ($14) T T T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9, SB raises to $83.66 and is all-in, Hero calls $74.66

Turn: ($181.32) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($181.32) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $181.32 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T T T 3 2
Hero showed 7 7 and won $178.52 ($87.86 net)
SB showed 8 J and lost (-$90.66 net)

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2.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (CO): $424.27 (424.3 bb)
BTN: $101 (101 bb)
SB: $100 (100 bb)
BB: $81.50 (81.5 bb)
UTG: $112 (112 bb)
MP: $59.26 (59.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T T
UTG folds, MP raises to $3, Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, MP calls $5

Flop: ($17.50) 6 8 K (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $9, MP calls $9

Turn: ($35.50) 3 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($35.50) 2 (2 players)
MP bets $42.26 and is all-in, Hero calls $42.26

Results: $120.02 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 8 K 3 2
Hero showed T T and won $117.22 ($57.96 net)
MP showed 8 Q and lost (-$59.26 net)

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3. Ja viimane ja kõige magusam, pärast mida ta ka kahjuks lahkus

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Hero (BTN): $448.89 (448.9 bb)
SB: $144.24 (144.2 bb)
BB: $110.33 (110.3 bb)
UTG: $116.72 (116.7 bb)
MP: $134.24 (134.2 bb)
CO: $210.98 (211 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A K
2 folds, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, CO raises to $18, Hero calls $9

Flop: ($37.50) J 5 A (2 players)
CO bets $30, Hero raises to $75, CO calls $45

Turn: ($187.50) T (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $355.89 and is all-in, CO calls $117.98

River: ($423.46) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $423.46 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J 5 A T 3
Hero showed A K and won $420.66 ($209.68 net)
CO showed Q Q and lost (-$210.98 net)

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4. See oli 10 minti enne sessi lõppu (mängin 2h) ja muidugi pidi sellele katastroof järgnema. Esmalt 90 euri fišši vastu AK vs JJ. Ja siis see. Riveri bet oli liiiiga väike, ja mina läksin muidugi selle paele lolliks. Miski preflop ultranit regular oli seniste käte põhjal.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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CO: $119.93 (119.9 bb)
BTN: $116.79 (116.8 bb)
SB: $127.02 (127 bb)
Hero (BB): $174.51 (174.5 bb)
UTG: $157.70 (157.7 bb)
MP: $107.02 (107 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J A
3 folds, BTN raises to $2.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $9, BTN calls $6.50

Flop: ($18.50) J 7 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $11, BTN calls $11

Turn: ($40.50) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $22.50, Hero calls $22.50

River: ($85.50) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $33.50, Hero raises to $132.01 and is all-in, BTN calls $40.79

Results: $234.08 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J 7 6 T J
BTN showed 9 8 and won $231.28 ($114.49 net)
Hero showed J A and lost (-$116.79 net)

[levis]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Kasvatan micros rolli ja see 6max zoom üllatab nagu, et kohati nit statsidega mängijad näitavad showdownil mingit crap käsi, sellist nalja nagu tavalistest ning fr laudadest ei mäleta. Kas oled ise ka kohanud midagi sellist 6max zoomis, et näiteks 13/11/2 statsidega nit callib op 3beti T4s või 3-4-5bet sõjas oskab ennast all-in sõidutada KTo vms.?
Mind paneb igatahes imestama, eriti veel, et ise selliste mängijate vastu nagu erilist meta mängu ei harrasta, et neil siis eriline read saaks olla.

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Ei oska väga kommenteerida. Ju nad on kuulnud, et peab range'i polariseerima ja hakkavad lollusi tegema :P

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Kuna sain täna alles suht hilja mängima, siis tegin vaid 1 sessi. 3 tundi tavapärase 2+2 asemel. Lõpuks olin suht väsinud, hea jooks ka ei ergutanud. Niiet üle 2h mulle järjest ei sobi. Muidu aga kena 5BI plussi.

1. Suurim kaotus. Miski agro fišš oli. Keeruline foldida. Pikas perspektiivis vast ikka +EV.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $170.26 (170.3 bb)
Hero (BTN): $105.38 (105.4 bb)
SB: $100 (100 bb)
BB: $104.83 (104.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K J
MP folds, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, CO raises to $23, Hero calls $13

Flop: ($47.50) 8 J 3 (2 players)
CO bets $147.26 and is all-in, Hero calls $82.38 and is all-in

Turn: ($212.26) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($212.26) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $212.26 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: 8 J 3 T 2
CO showed A A and won $210.11 ($104.73 net)
Hero mucked K J and lost (-$105.38 net)

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2. Ja suurim võit ühe Eesti mängija vastu. Pärast pidas TTvsAK ka.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $41.71 (41.7 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $123.02 (123 bb)
MP: $105.46 (105.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $150.78 (150.8 bb)
BTN: $133.47 (133.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q
UTG calls $1, MP folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN raises to $14.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $28, BTN raises to $133.47 and is all-in, Hero calls $105.47

Flop: ($269.44) J 6 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($269.44) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($269.44) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $269.44 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: J 6 3 5 6
Hero showed Q Q and won $267.29 ($133.82 net)
BTN showed A K and lost (-$133.47 net)

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3. Üks teine ilus QQ ka.

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BB: $41.98 (42 bb)
UTG: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $220.38 (220.4 bb)
BTN: $131.20 (131.2 bb)
SB: $110.40 (110.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q
UTG folds, MP raises to $3, Hero calls $3, 3 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 2 Q 6 (2 players)
MP bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($17.50) A (2 players)
MP bets $10, Hero calls $10

River: ($37.50) Q (2 players)
MP bets $23, Hero raises to $202.38 and is all-in, MP calls $59 and is all-in

Results: $201.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 Q 6 A Q
MP showed 8 K and lost (-$100 net)
Hero showed Q Q and won $198.70 ($98.70 net)

[Pyha Karu]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Kas 3. käes ei oleks parem turnis tõsta, sest riverit ta suure tõenäosusega ei blufiks enam oma tõmmetega, kui sa turni A callid.

[HerrJanks]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Standard on obv turn tõsta aga kui seda mitte teha river on blank ei suuda vastane küll sind mitte kunagi tugevale holdingule panna.

Päris palju rivereid võib küll käe tappa aga deception on ka suur, nii et see variant tundub ka väga ahvatlev imo

Vähemasti teatud mängijate vastu

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Tõsi ta on, et turni raise oleks vast rohkem EV+ kui kõik võimalikud seisud läbi mõelda.

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Esimene sess tehtud ja mõned buyinnid õnneks jälle rollile lisatud.

1. I love it when a plan comes together :). Ehk tegu on miski sego regfishmaniakiga, kes vist muud ei mõista teha kui nuppe vajutada. Nt 1500 käe kohta btn steal 100%; 3bet 13%, 5bet 80%. Flopi ja turni peale kokku fold to ch-raise 1/11. Lihtsalt pidin talle kandikul nööri ja seepi tooma. Tüübi nimi muidu Louis.napsack

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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MP: $101 (101 bb)
CO: $167.49 (167.5 bb)
BTN: $166.92 (166.9 bb)
SB: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $102 (102 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
MP folds, CO raises to $3, BTN folds, SB calls $2.50, Hero raises to $13, CO calls $10, SB folds

Flop: ($29) T T 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $16.50, Hero raises to $39, CO raises to $154.49 and is all-in, Hero calls $50 and is all-in

Turn: ($207) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($207) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $207 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: T T 5 2 3
CO mucked A Q and lost (-$102.00 net)
Hero showed K K and won $204.85 ($102.85 net)

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2. Ei olnud üldse kerge call. Üpris adekvaatne regular oli ja varem mulle peavalu valmistanud. Meie vahel oli vaal, vast seetõttu preflop callis ka. Riveril on ikka väga tihti KQ vastas. Tõenäoliselt villane teadis seda ka ja üritas mind elu eest maha võtta. Eks ma suht AA/AK repin ka.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BB: $190.08 (190.1 bb)
UTG: $172.52 (172.5 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $170.61 (170.6 bb)
BTN: $117.55 (117.6 bb)
SB: $100.66 (100.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
UTG raises to $3, MP calls $3, Hero raises to $11, 3 folds, UTG calls $8, MP calls $8

Flop: ($34.50) 5 3 K (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $18, UTG calls $18, MP folds

Turn: ($70.50) Q (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($70.50) T (2 players)
UTG bets $57.50, Hero calls $57.50

Results: $185.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 5 3 K Q T
UTG showed J J and lost (-$86.50 net)
Hero showed A A and won $182.70 ($96.20 net)

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3. Suurim kaotus siis alljärgnev. 1. käsi lauas, tüüpi absoluutselt ei tea. Nagu näha, siis foldida ma ei tahtnud.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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CO: $116.97 (117 bb)
BTN: $101.50 (101.5 bb)
SB: $44.12 (44.1 bb)
Hero (BB): $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $102.50 (102.5 bb)
MP: $42.83 (42.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T T
2 folds, CO raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, CO raises to $116.97 and is all-in, Hero calls $90 and is all-in

Flop: ($200.50) A K 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($200.50) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($200.50) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $200.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A K 4 5 2
CO showed K K and won $197.70 ($97.70 net)
Hero showed T T and lost (-$100 net)

[levis]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Ega viitsi vaadata, et mis pocketid sul plussis on kui paned filtri pre all-in?

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Ma arvan, et mul pole piisavalt palju käsi, et selle põhjal mingeid järeldusi teha. Ja eks tulemus sõltub väga palju ka sellest, mitu mängijat lauas on.