Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 6max]

[ivar866]

Re: Dnbftw päevik [NL10 FR] Limiidid vahetuvad tihedamalt kui sokid.

1. vast hero calls 1.71,reise pole kohustuslik

[bi0hazard]

Re: Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 FR]

Ei peaks, aga sisse ka sellel turnil ei ajaks. 3bet üleliigne juba

[pastilaa]

Re: Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 FR]

ei käi küll selle käe kohta, aga FR laudade alustamise HU on hoopis teine asi kui lihtsalt HU lauas mäng. FR puhul on enamasti mõlemil veel 10+ lauda lahti ja fookus mujal, st ranged on tublisti tightimad.

[Dnbftw]

Re: Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 FR]

Ise lasin ühe lauaga, oli veidi igav ja tahtsin mõnda regulari nokkida. Saime suht 100 kätt ära madistatud HU's, as usual lasin 2BI auku.

Anywayz, nitt on ikka jube olla. LAGerdasin veidi laudades täna, tableselect at it's finest, 8 lauda max ja mäng oli oi oi oi oi oi oi kui põnev. 24/20 statsid täna. Olen ehk tulevane Peeruhirmutis.

12/9 nit, kelle 3bet 8%. Arvatavasti oleks 3betile foldinud kui see poleks tal nii suur(possible leak?), igatahes flopil ebard situatsioon. Most likely oleme taga, paremal juhul split pot. Tundus parem lasta vastasel bluffida või odavalt SD-le saada.
Hero (UTG): $10.93
UTG+1: $7.31
MP1: $23.97
MP2: $12.22
CO: $10.97
BTN: $10.00
SB: $10.00
BB: $9.49

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with K A
Hero raises to $0.30, 4 folds, BTN raises to $0.90, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.20, BTN calls $1.30

Flop: ($4.55) 2 K Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.17, Hero calls $2.17

Turn: ($8.89) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.24, Hero raises to $6.56 all in, BTN calls $1.39 all in

River: ($20.15) K (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $20.15
Hero shows K A (three of a kind, Kings)
BTN shows A A (two pair, Aces and Kings)
Hero wins $19.24
(Rake: $0.91)

[pastilaa]

Re: Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 FR]

foldiks ikkagi pre. räme nitt ja vs utg ta 3bet kindlasti 8% ei ole. as played ei biidi sa kahjuks midagi ja bluffe pole võimalik sees hoida kuna ta ranges puuduvad blufid.

[Dnbftw]

Re: Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 FR]

"vs utg ta 3bet kindlasti 8% ei ole"

Oskaks ka mängus sees olles selliseid mõtteid mõelda... küll siis biidiks :D Ei tore kui arenemisruumi on, muidu vist ei viitsikski pokrit taguda.

[Kakahirmutis]

Re: Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 FR]

kaka style :D

[Dnbftw]

Re: Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 FR]

Kisub Kaka styleks ära jah :D 15-20BI swong ahead, feeling awsum! Külm kõht tuleb kasuks hetkel.

(Klõpsa sisu nägemiseks / peitmiseks)

[kala6li]

Re: Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 FR]

Ära põe, ma ei biid NL2 ka enam

[Dnbftw]

Re: Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 FR]

Zero tilt aga sess jäi siiski -7BI(1300 kätt) ennist, swonks 13BI peal hetkel. Üldjuhul kasutan miskit 3-5BI stoplossi olenevalt tujust aga täna oli yolo tunne ja sai grindiga jätkatud. Ca 5BI saab veel auku lasta ja siis tuleb NL5 tagasi kolida. Peaasi, et pokkeriisu täitsa ära ei kustutata :)

[timz0333]

Re: Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 FR]

Postita mõni käsi ka, vb sa ei oska lihtsalt mängida.

[Dnbftw]

Re: Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 FR]

Palun timz, siin siis viimase 5 päeva suurimad kaotatud potid. Viimased 13 kätt eilsest sessist. Spoileri avamine omal vastutusel :D Panin AMSAP(as much stats as possible). Tean, et võib sellise väikse sample peale skewed olla kuid üldpildi saab ikka kätte, et mis suunas liikuma hakkavad numbrid.

(Klõpsa sisu nägemiseks / peitmiseks)

vastase kohta 9 kätt andmebaasis ja 44/0, std imo. sizing võiks suurem olla tho.
Hero (MP2): $11.24
CO: $10.00
BTN: $8.65
SB: $12.15
BB: $11.49
UTG: $11.98
UTG+1: $15.09
MP1: $9.35

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP2 with T T
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, 4 folds, MP1 calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.95) K 6 T (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.60, MP1 calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.15) 2 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1.40, MP1 calls $1.40

River: ($4.95) K (2 players)
MP1 bets $0.30, Hero raises to $8.84 all in, MP1 calls $6.65 all in


vs 13/10 nit 850 käe peale, fto3bet 80%, fold to flop cbet in 3bet pot statistika vist ei ole veel välja kujunenud?(Ei vaadanud järgi.) Turnis selline solid gayraise, any1 folds?
BTN: $10.00
SB: $10.05
Hero (BB): $11.12
UTG: $10.99
UTG+1: $10.00
MP: $10.96
CO: $6.60

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with A A
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.30, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.80, UTG+1 calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.65) 6 3 J (2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, UTG+1 calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.25) K (2 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG+1 raises to $5, Hero calls $3

River: ($13.25) T (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $3.40 all in, Hero calls $3.40


sample 50 kätt 30/18, AFq 55%
Hero (CO): $18.79
BTN: $4.87
SB: $14.31
BB: $10.00
UTG: $7.24
MP: $10.25

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with A K
UTG raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.70, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.55) 4 A 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1

Turn: ($3.55) T (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.70, UTG raises to $5.40, Hero raises to $17.09 all in, UTG calls $0.14 all in

River: ($14.63) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)


sample 17 kätt 47/6
MP2: $10.00
CO: $7.10
BTN: $11.01
SB: $10.39
BB: $3.90
UTG: $10.00
Hero (UTG+1): $10.15
MP1: $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with T T
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, CO calls $0.30, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 3 8 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60

Turn: ($1.95) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50

River: ($4.95) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4.70 all in, Hero calls $4.70


sample 40 kätt 41/23
UTG: $6.94
Hero (UTG+1): $14.97
MP1: $15.52
MP2: $10.38
CO: $19.76
BTN: $10.00
SB: $10.00
BB: $11.50

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with Q Q
UTG raises to $6.94 all in, Hero raises to $14.97 all in, 6 folds

Flop: ($14.03) 5 9 T (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($14.03) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($14.03) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)


sample 52 kätt 36/17, AFq 57%
MP1: $10.59
Hero (MP2): $10.00
CO: $8.13
BTN: $10.27
SB: $11.27
BB: $9.55
UTG: $10.54
UTG+1: $10.15
UTG+2: $19.33

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP2 with K A
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 3 Q A (2 players)
Hero bets $0.40, BTN raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($2.35) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

River: ($4.75) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.30, Hero calls $2.30


Alustasin uue laua ja vastane unknown mängija. Ei tahtnud uskuda. Mäletan, et avas igat BTNit. Andmebaasis 15 kätt ja AFq selle aja peale 100%.
BB: $7.35
Hero (BTN/SB): $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN/SB with K K
Hero raises to $0.30, BB raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.00) 7 A 8 (2 players)
BB bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($6.00) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($6.00) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $4.35 all in, Hero calls $4.35



35 kätt 60/9, AFq 67%, 3bettind 3 korda 20st.
SB: $7.88
Hero (BB): $10.28
BTN: $10.09

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with Q Q
1 fold, SB calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.50, SB raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $10.28 all in, SB calls $6.98 all in

Flop: ($15.76) J J A (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($15.76) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($15.76) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)


CO 236 kätt 17/13, BTN 62/10 30 käe peale. Mul üldjuhul flopi donkbet väga haruldane nähtus, aga siin ei tahtnud check-backiga riskida.
BB: $11.02
UTG: $11.48
UTG+1: $10.32
MP: $8.39
CO: $10.00
BTN: $11.36
Hero (SB): $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 7 7
3 folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.00) 7 T 9 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.90, CO calls $0.90, BTN folds

Turn: ($2.80) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $2.20, CO calls $2.20

River: ($7.20) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.60 all in, CO calls $6.60 all in


40 kätt 68/40, AFq 62%, 3bet 28%(5/18).
SB: $10.61
BB: $10.00
UTG: $12.91
UTG+1: $9.26
MP: $2.75
CO: $16.04
Hero (BTN): $14.17

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with A K
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.90, 2 folds, UTG+1 raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $14.17 all in, UTG+1 calls $7.76 all in

Flop: ($18.67) J Q 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($18.67) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($18.67) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)


53 kätt 90/13. Pigem passiivne fish, 3bet 0%, AFq 52%, AF 1.7. Ei suuda mina siin check-backida, nonsense, eks? :P
UTG+1: $10.43
UTG+2: $10.00
MP1: $11.30
MP2: $8.75
CO: $22.64
Hero (BTN): $12.93
SB: $14.49
BB: $15.68
UTG: $16.08

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with K Q
5 folds, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, CO calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.15) 5 8 Q (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $1, CO calls $1

Turn: ($3.15) 2 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $3, CO calls $3

River: ($9.15) 7 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $8.43 all in, CO calls $8.43



60 kätt 21/16, AFq 85%, 3bet 12(3/25), siiani kolmel korral neljast foldinud 3betile.
UTG+1: $10.55
MP1: $11.78
MP2: $8.14
CO: $11.58
BTN: $10.00
Hero (SB): $12.25
BB: $8.87
UTG: $9.60

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with K K
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.30, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $3.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $12.25 all in, UTG+1 calls $7.35 all in

Flop: ($21.50) J 8 J (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($21.50) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($21.50) T (2 players - 2 are all in)


45 kätt 60/4 passiivne fish. Lauas oli 3-4 fishi, antud vastane oli kõige vaalasem.
MP2: $17.72
Hero (CO): $10.00
BTN: $13.96
SB: $9.68
BB: $22.80
UTG: $8.02
UTG+1: $15.26
UTG+2: $9.91
MP1: $27.14

Pre Flop: ($0.33) Hero is CO with T J
UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, UTG+2 raises to $0.20, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.20, SB calls $0.15, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10

Flop: ($1.68) T J 4 (7 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, UTG+2 raises to $2, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $9.78 all in, BTN folds, SB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $7.69 all in

Turn: ($21.26) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($21.26) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)


Sama laud, mis eelmises käes 3-4 fishiga. 43 kätt 42/7.
UTG+2: $12.00
Hero (MP1): $16.77
MP2: $25.88
CO: $34.27
BTN: $22.43
SB: $8.16
BB: $20.00
UTG: $16.41
UTG+1: $26.62

Pre Flop: ($0.33) Hero is MP1 with K K
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 3 folds, SB raises to $0.90, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.80, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3.10, 1 fold

Flop: ($9.18) 2 T T (2 players)
SB bets $4.14 all in, Hero calls $4.14

Turn: ($17.46) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($17.46) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)


85 kätt 47/22. Avasin UTG-st, sest laud oli nitine ja BB-l siis vaal.
CO: $10.67
BTN: $11.47
SB: $8.79
BB: $7.61
UTG: $11.25
Hero (UTG+1): $12.08
MP1: $10.10
MP2: $11.28

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with 9 A
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 5 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) A T Q (2 players)
BB bets $0.62, Hero calls $0.62

Turn: ($1.89) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $1.81, Hero calls $1.81

River: ($5.51) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $4.88 all in, Hero calls $4.88


15 kätt 53/13. Otsustasin callida turni ja riveri maha, kui tulevad väiksed kaardid. Liigitub vist spewi alla.
Hero (UTG+1): $10.00
UTG+2: $7.20
MP1: $3.02
MP2: $10.00
CO: $7.85
BTN: $3.45
SB: $18.01
BB: $11.45
UTG: $7.83

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with 8 8
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, UTG+2 raises to $0.50, 6 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.15) 5 K 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.15) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $2, Hero calls $2

River: ($6.15) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $4.20 all in, Hero calls $4.20


Ma eeldan, et antud käsi sai mängitud vastase vastu kui ta oli veel tundmatu minu jaoks, sest andmebaasist hetkel vaadates statse oleksin prolly teistmoodi mänginud. Tundub, et CO oli vist fishine ja tahtsin temaga mängida.
MP1: $10.13
MP2: $10.15
CO: $4.25
BTN: $10.00
SB: $10.00
Hero (BB): $10.25
UTG: $9.74
UTG+1: $6.94

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with Q Q
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.30, 2 folds, CO calls $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10.25 all in, UTG+1 calls $6.64 all in, 1 fold

Flop: ($14.23) 2 4 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($14.23) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($14.23) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)


570 kätt 11/6. NL10 stats only siis on 13/8. Ühesõnaga nit. Mingi standard play neil AA limpida UTG deep lauas? Prolly minu eilse päeva säravaim käsi, kus ei suutnudki maxlossi teha AA vastu.
Hero (BTN): $11.40
SB: $26.84
BB: $7.37
UTG: $25.46
UTG+1: $87.81
UTG+2: $9.69
MP1: $20.03
MP2: $11.65
CO: $44.76

Pre Flop: ($0.33) Hero is BTN with K K
UTG calls $0.10, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, UTG raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3.33) J 6 J (2 players)
UTG bets $1.59, Hero calls $1.59

Turn: ($6.51) 7 (2 players)
UTG bets $3.11, Hero calls $3.11

River: ($12.73) 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks


Ikka oli vaja fishi torkima minna. Sama tegelane, kes KQs käes. 53 kätt 90/13. Pigem passiivne fish, 3bet 0%, AFq 52%, AF 1.7
SB: $10.00
BB: $3.88
UTG: $10.00
UTG+1: $9.29
UTG+2: $6.10
Hero (MP1): $11.82
MP2: $13.22
CO: $17.97
BTN: $17.13

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP1 with 5 A
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.10, 1 fold, BB checks

Flop: ($0.45) 5 8 2 (4 players)
BB bets $0.10, UTG+2 calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.85) 5 (4 players)
BB bets $0.10, UTG+2 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN folds, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $0.65

River: ($2.45) 9 (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $2, UTG+2 raises to $5.15 all in, Hero calls $3.15


23 kätt 34/13.
UTG+1: $7.57
MP1: $6.97
MP2: $7.44
CO: $10.47
BTN: $5.13
Hero (SB): $10.22
BB: $10.10
UTG: $20.98

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with A K
5 folds, BTN calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, BTN raises to $5.13 all in, Hero calls $4.63

Flop: ($10.36) 7 8 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($10.36) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($10.36) J (2 players - 1 is all in)


33 kätt 67/30.
UTG: $10.00
UTG+1: $9.85
MP1: $7.40
MP2: $4.51
CO: $10.00
BTN: $14.69
SB: $11.36
Hero (BB): $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with K A
3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.35, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.35, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, MP2 raises to $4.51 all in, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.01

Flop: ($9.42) 3 Q J (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($9.42) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($9.42) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)


40 kätt 28/7.
SB: $26.53
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $21.57
UTG+1: $21.45
MP1: $17.80
MP2: $32.50
CO: $37.39
BTN: $25.33

Pre Flop: ($0.31) Hero is BB with 3 T
UTG calls $0.10, 4 folds, BTN calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.51) T A 3 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.40, UTG folds, BTN raises to $1.04, Hero calls $0.64

Turn: ($2.59) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.23, Hero calls $1.23

River: ($5.05) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.41, Hero calls $2.41

[pastilaa]

Re: Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 FR]

esimese TT käe viitsisin vaadata - sizing metsa. long run jätad idioodi vastu kõvasti raha lauda. cbetiks suuremalt f ja t

[timz0333]

Re: Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 FR]

TT kohta sama,

Vaatasin kiirelt kõik üle ja siin seal oleks ikka teisiti mänginud. Mingi 5 kätt postis on normaalne üle selle veits kirju juba. pre coolereid ei postitaks üldse.

[Xavi]

Re: Dnbftw grindoorium [NL10 FR]

Igvusest vaatan ja kommenteerin. Targemad võiks parandada.

1) TT eespool mainiti et sized valed. Ülejäänud teeks samamoodi.
2) AA vaataks mis ta turnis enne teinud on? kas on enne tõstnud üldse seal? aga foldi ilmselt ikka ei suudaks leida.
3) AK 3bet 0,8$ peale on minul ja kõik muu teeks sama.
4) TT ilmselt suudaks riveris foldida.
5) QQ nice
6) AK nice
7) KK oeh nutaks ja foldiks riveri.
8) QQ calliks pre 3beti ja vaataks floppi.
9) 77 nice
10) AKga 4beti callimine selle fishi vastu halb mõte?
11) KQs flopil sama, turnil paneks väiksemalt- 2$ või checkiks järgi. Kumb on parem? Kui turni betin sis riveri checkiks järgi.
12) KK nice
13) A9s Turni size on pot. Kas me näeme halvema kickeriga A? Riveris fold leida keeurline. Ainuke pääsetee oleks turn ära foldida size ja ehk timingu järgi.
14) 88 Turnis check fold
15) QQ squeeze 1,2le ja vaataks edasi. Calliks all inni.
16) KK mängiks samamoodi, kui juba pre ei paneks all in.
17) A5s checkiks riveri järgi.
18) AK nice
19) AK nice
20) T3o donk mõtekas? Nõutu. Check calliks flopi ja üritaks poti väiksena hoida edasi.