[ ] Games are dead

[bi0hazard]

Re: [ ] Games are dead

ma ei usu, et sul turnil nii lõbus oli kui flopil paista võis :D

[IsandJoberst]

Re: [ ] Games are dead

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG+1: $9.70 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 16, 3B: 3, AF: 1.0, Hands: 913
MP1: $16.39 - VPIP: 80, PFR: 60, 3B: 33, AF: 3.0, Hands: 5
MP2: $10.64 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 14, 3B: 9, AF: 3.5, Hands: 37
CO: $10.00 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 8
BTN: $8.27 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 31
Hero (SB): $17.44 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 3, AF: 2.5, Hands: 133323
BB: $7.19 - VPIP: 43, PFR: 2, 3B: 2, AF: 1.8, Hands: 528
UTG: $18.91 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 16, 3B: 8, AF: 3.4, Hands: 294

CO posts a big blind ($0.10)

Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero is SB with A K
UTG raises to $0.40, UTG+1 calls $0.40, MP1 calls $0.40, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.60, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.20, MP1 raises to $2.80, Hero calls $1.20, UTG+1 calls $1.20

Flop: ($9.00) 7 K 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets $3.90, Hero raises to $14.64, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $9.69 all in

Turn: ($36.18) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($36.18) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $36.18
MP1 mucks 5 A
Hero shows A K
Hero wins $33.88
(Rake: $1.25)

[noname]

Re: [ ] Games are dead


PokerStars - €1 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: €100.00
BB: €76.85
UTG: €103.23
MP: €136.00
Hero (CO): €102.36
BTN: €40.00

SB posts SB €0.50, BB posts BB €1.00

Pre Flop: (€1.50) Hero has Q Q

fold, MP raises to €2.80, Hero calls €2.80, fold, fold, BB raises to €17.00, fold, Hero raises to €102.36 and is all-in, BB calls €59.85 and is all-in

Flop: (€157.00, 2 players) 9 6 9

Turn: (€157.00, 2 players) 5

River: (€157.00, 2 players) 3

BB shows J T (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 14%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Nines) (Pre 86%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins €154.85

[noname]

Re: [ ] Games are dead

PokerStars - €1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: €289.61
SB: €100.00
Hero (BB): €100.00
UTG: €80.00
UTG+1: €100.00
MP: €90.45
MP+1: €113.58
CO: €40.00

SB posts SB €0.50, Hero posts BB €1.00

Pre Flop: (€1.50) Hero has K A

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls €1.00, fold, BTN raises to €4.00, fold, Hero calls €3.00, MP+1 raises to €12.00, fold, Hero raises to €100.00 and is all-in, MP+1 calls €88.00

Flop: (€204.50, 2 players) A 5 2

Turn: (€204.50, 2 players) J

River: (€204.50, 2 players) T

Hero shows K A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 60%, Flop 91%, Turn 80%)
MP+1 shows 9 6 (Flush, Jack High) (Pre 40%, Flop 9%, Turn 20%)
MP+1 wins €202.35

[Fuzzy]

Re: [ ] Games are dead

PokerStars - €1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: €289.61
SB: €100.00
Hero (BB): €100.00
UTG: €80.00
UTG+1: €100.00
MP: €90.45
MP+1: €113.58
CO: €40.00

SB posts SB €0.50, Hero posts BB €1.00

Pre Flop: (€1.50) Hero has K A

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls €1.00, fold, BTN raises to €4.00, fold, Hero calls €3.00, MP+1 raises to €12.00, fold, Hero raises to €100.00 and is all-in, MP+1 calls €88.00

Flop: (€204.50, 2 players) A 5 2

Turn: (€204.50, 2 players) J

River: (€204.50, 2 players) T

Hero shows K A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 60%, Flop 91%, Turn 80%)
MP+1 shows 9 6 (Flush, Jack High) (Pre 40%, Flop 9%, Turn 20%)
MP+1 wins €202.35

Games are not dead jah, kuna pidevalt näen regulare AK-ga shovemas 3-beti vastu aga QQ, KK, AA-ga 4-bettimas 25 bb peale . Ei saa kindlalt väita, et sa üks neist oled, aga palju on selliseid.

[noname]

Re: [ ] Games are dead

Games are not dead jah, kuna pidevalt näen regulare AK-ga shovemas 3-beti vastu aga QQ, KK, AA-ga 4-bettimas 25 bb peale . Ei saa kindlalt väita, et sa üks neist oled, aga palju on selliseid.

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Fish tegi õige calli sinu arvates,sest ma showesin?

[pikk28]

Re: [ ] Games are dead

ofc, tal ju 2 live kaarti

[Fuzzy]

Re: [ ] Games are dead

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Fish tegi õige calli sinu arvates,sest ma showesin?

Ma ei rääkinud üldse ju sellest, mida fish tegi. Ma räägin, et kui sa AK-d shoved siis väiksed paarid callivad ja Ax foldib. See pole ju kõige parem?

[Fuzzy]

Re: [ ] Games are dead

Muide kui konkreetsest jaotusest rääkida siis:

Fishil on 0 EV calli tegemiseks vaja 42% eq-d

96s eq AKo vastu - 39%
96 eq sinu tõenäolise shove-range vastu (JJ-22, AJs+, AQo+) - 37%

Vot nii on lood. Väike -EV, aga mitte midagi katastroofilist.

[noname]

Re: [ ] Games are dead

Ma ei rääkinud üldse ju sellest, mida fish tegi. Ma räägin, et kui sa AK-d shoved siis väiksed paarid callivad ja Ax foldib. See pole ju kõige parem?

EI

Muide kui konkreetsest jaotusest rääkida siis:

Fishil on 0 EV calli tegemiseks vaja 42% eq-d

96s eq AKo vastu - 39%
96 eq sinu tõenäolise shove-range vastu (JJ-22, AJs+, AQo+) - 37%

Vot nii on lood. Väike -EV, aga mitte midagi katastroofilist.

Hero käsi ei oma tähtsust.Igal käel on eq aga 69s full stack PF AI call on DEAD.

GL

[Fuzzy]

Re: [ ] Games are dead

Ma saan aru, et ütlesid viimase sõna ja asi vask, teema lõpetatud, aga näe ma olen ka kangekaelne.

EI

EI mis? Ei foldi? Minu postituse see osa käsitles AK mängimist üldiselt, mitte ainult vaalade vastu. Kas sa väidad, et regular callib A5s siin? Ei calli. Küll aga võib ta selle shoveda üle sinu 25 bb 4beti.

Hero käsi ei oma tähtsust.Igal käel on eq aga 69s full stack PF AI call on DEAD.

GL

Ma ei öelnudki, et on hea call. Lihtsalt sa postitasid selle jaotuse siia teemasse ikka selle mõttega, et "OMG ZOMG VAADAKE MILLINE JUBE CALL" (aka games are dead). Aga ei ole jube. Villane kaotab mõne eurtsi siin pikas perspektiivis.

[qbj0hn]

Re: [ ] Games are dead

Ka üks variantidest.
Sama vend.

Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 2033433
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

MP1: $37.07
MP2: $12.64
CO: $6.89
BTN: $13.06
Hero (SB): $25.00
BB: $10.00
UTG: $11.39
UTG+1: $27.20

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A K
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $4.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $25, UTG+1 calls $20.50

Flop: ($50.75) 7 A A (2 players)

Turn: ($50.75) 5 (2 players)

River: ($50.75) T (2 players)

Final Pot: $50.75
Hero shows A K
UTG+1 shows 4 Q
Hero wins $48.75


Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players - View hand 2033434
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: $46.39
UTG+1: $5.49
MP: $24.94
Hero (CO): $48.40
BTN: $10.00
SB: $10.00
BB: $23.72

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with T T
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BB raises to $3.25, Hero raises to $48.40, BB calls $20.47 all in

Flop: ($47.54) Q 3 K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($47.54) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($47.54) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $47.54
Hero shows T T
BB shows 5 9
Hero wins $45.54


Pühad on alanud.

[noname]

Re: [ ] Games are dead

Ma saan aru, et ütlesid viimase sõna ja asi vask, teema lõpetatud, aga näe ma olen ka kangekaelne.



EI mis? Ei foldi? Minu postituse see osa käsitles AK mängimist üldiselt, mitte ainult vaalade vastu. Kas sa väidad, et regular callib A5s siin? Ei calli. Küll aga võib ta selle shoveda üle sinu 25 bb 4beti.

Kui sa edasi tahad rääkida,siis palun kirjuta mu päevikusse või saada PM.
Ma rääkisin fishidest mitte mängust regularide vastu.Ma ei mängi fishide vastu samamoodi nagu regularide vastu !

Ma ei öelnudki, et on hea call. Lihtsalt sa postitasid selle jaotuse siia teemasse ikka selle mõttega, et "OMG ZOMG VAADAKE MILLINE JUBE CALL" (aka games are dead). Aga ei ole jube. Villane kaotab mõne eurtsi siin pikas perspektiivis.

WP kui arvad,et any2 PF AI callides jääb(d) ~BE :)

GL HERO :)

[Fuzzy]

Re: [ ] Games are dead

Ok, rahu, ei mõelnud midagi halba, lihtsalt arutlesin. Seda foorumites ikka tehakse. GL.

[kardaanirist]

Re: [ ] Games are dead

Fish tegi õige calli sinu arvates,sest ma showesin?

yep.
see on ju standard - "Mul on 2 elus kaarti. Need on ju suited. Jänes kaarte ei mängi!" - olukord.

ja see sõna on siiamaani shove. vist kolmas kord kui ma sind parandan. lihtsalt jubedalt häirib silma.