[PLO 100-200] muttaja

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Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

Kaks päeva talun üldjuhul ära, aga kolmandaga läheb juba keeruliseks.



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[muttaja]

Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

Mõelamd käed sama tola vastu.

Paar kätt varem oli 93o vs AK preflop allinn doubleupi saanud :).

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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Hero (BTN): $301.12 (150.6 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)
BB: $206.42 (103.2 bb)
MP: $208 (104 bb)
CO: $393.86 (196.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J J
MP folds, CO raises to $6, Hero raises to $18, 2 folds, CO raises to $30, Hero raises to $60, CO calls $30

Flop: ($123) 7 5 5 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $68, CO raises to $333.86 and is all-in, Hero calls $173.12 and is all-in

Turn: ($605.24) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($605.24) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $605.24 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 5 5 7 A
Hero mucked J J and lost (-$301.12 net)
CO showed A A and won $602.44 ($301.32 net)

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Ja mõni aeg hiljem...

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $200 (100 bb)
SB: $226.38 (113.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $210.78 (105.4 bb)
UTG: $207 (103.5 bb)
MP: $301.03 (150.5 bb)
CO: $330.18 (165.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
UTG folds, MP raises to $6, CO calls $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $26, MP calls $20, CO calls $20

Flop: ($79) T 4 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $80, CO folds, Hero raises to $184.78 and is all-in, MP calls $104.78

Turn: ($448.56) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($448.56) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $448.56 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T 4 7 J 2
Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$210.78 net)
MP showed K K and won $445.76 ($234.98 net)
CO mucked and lost (-$26 net)

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Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

No siit peab küll upswing pihta hakkama :D

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: $119.23 (59.6 bb)
UTG: $217.21 (108.6 bb)
Hero (MP): $264.31 (132.2 bb)
CO: $258.05 (129 bb)
BTN: $200 (100 bb)
SB: $287.77 (143.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7 A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $6, CO folds, BTN calls $6, 2 folds

Flop: ($15) 7 6 A (2 players)
Hero bets $10, BTN raises to $29, Hero calls $19

Turn: ($73) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $39, Hero raises to $229.31 and is all-in, BTN calls $126 and is all-in

River: ($403) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $403 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: 7 6 A 8 A
Hero showed 7 A and won $400.85 ($200.85 net)
BTN mucked T 9 and lost (-$200 net)

[muttaja]

Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

Tänase teise sessi ajal nl400 laudu ei avanud ja nittisin turvaliselt nl200-s. Tõmbasin ilusti ära ka 2 korda. Stasid 28/20/5. Jube suur VPIP/PFR, mis tuleb vist bb pealt coldcallimisest. Aga min avangu vastu peaks call olema ikka väga laia range'iga +EV. 3bet% ka jube madal, aga no ausalt - ei antud lehte.

[p0l1]

Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

Kui saladus pole, siis mitme bi-sed downswingid varem nl200s on olnud ja mis sample jooksul ? Viimane aasta nt, äkki see ka näitab midagi. Ennustamine tänamatu töö muidugi.

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Eelmise aasta juunis-juulis kukkusin 50BI, lõpu poole oli osa ka nl100, sest roll enam ei kannatanud. Aga no see oli Zoomis ja Zoom on saatanast :)

[valgelendur]

Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

Sinu arvamus all in ev joonest?

muide jah 28/20 jõle suur cap, aga jah enamus cap peakski bb/btn pealt (enamus siiski bb pealt) tulema... hetkel callin vs sb umbes 60% (15%-20% sellest 3b vast) range ja läheb laiemaks (muidugi oleneb vastasest) ja nõrgem osa rangest näitab breakevenit (mis muidugi on supper, foldimine -100bb/100)

gl downswingiga dealimisega, vast oli see tõesti upswingi algus :)

[p0l1]

Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

Pidavat biiditav olema nl500 zoom ka kusjuures, on paar kuud vanasid videoid küll, kus vähemalt jutu järgi on nl100 ja nl500 eri treening-saitide coachide seas biitijaid [Cardrunnersist keegi, sample 70k ja 5 bb/100h, DC blah234, 5 või rohkem bb, sample [?], mingi aimu ikka annab]. Mäng siiski tundub hoopis erinev tavalisest 6maxist, üsna palju saab deepina mängida nagu sa ise rääkisid mõni aeg tagasi ja rohkem coolereid.

Nende videote põhjal minule tundub zoom nagu tight 6m formaat, kus vastased on pigem nitid, näiteks nl50 ja natuke paremad nitid.

[virukunn]

Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

aejones nl500 zoom: http://www.leggopoker.com/blogs/aejones/zoom-11059.html

[muttaja]

Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

Sinu arvamus all in ev joonest?

muide jah 28/20 jõle suur cap, aga jah enamus cap peakski bb/btn pealt (enamus siiski bb pealt) tulema... hetkel callin vs sb umbes 60% (15%-20% sellest 3b vast) range ja läheb laiemaks (muidugi oleneb vastasest) ja nõrgem osa rangest näitab breakevenit (mis muidugi on supper, foldimine -100bb/100)

gl downswingiga dealimisega, vast oli see tõesti upswingi algus :)

Ega see EV joon üksi jah kogu tõde jooksust ei kajasta. Mingis mõttes on isegi alla EV joosta vähem valus, sest siis saad graafikust lohutust otsida. Aga kui pidevalt top range'i joosta, siis ma hakkan lõpuks oma mängus kahtlema ja teen selle tõdu vigu.

BBvSB on mul ka call+3bet kuskil 57% (fullringis isegi 72%, kuna sealsed regularid üldiselt väga agrot mängu ei harrasta ja tundub jube mugav callida). BBvBU minopeni vastu vast kuskil 40%. BBvSB sõltub ka suht palju, kui laialt SB avab. Isegi regularidel varieerub see väga palju, alates 20 kuni 70%. BU pealt on see palju ühtlasem regularide seas.

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Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

Kas "cool story" on keegi siit foorumist?

[muttaja]

Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

Eino valus algus teisele sessile

Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $217.84 (108.9 bb)
BB: $967.21 (483.6 bb)
UTG: $138.95 (69.5 bb)
MP: $500 (250 bb)
CO: $500 (250 bb)
Hero (BTN): $500 (250 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
UTG raises to $6.28, 2 folds, Hero calls $6.28, SB raises to $24, BB folds, UTG calls $17.72, Hero raises to $56, SB calls $32, UTG calls $32

Flop: ($172.40) 7 5 2 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $443.60 and is all-in, SB calls $161.44 and is all-in, UTG folds

Turn: ($495.28) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($495.28) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $495.28 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 5 2 A 6
SB showed 5 5 and won $492.48 ($274.64 net)
UTG mucked and lost (-$56.40 net)
Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$217.84 net)

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Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

Andekate vendade otsa ikka satun

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $89 (44.5 bb)
BTN: $200 (100 bb)
SB: $201 (100.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 9
2 folds, SB raises to $4, Hero raises to $14, SB raises to $32, Hero raises to $54, SB calls $22

Flop: ($108) 2 Q Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($108) 3 (2 players)
SB bets $50, Hero calls $50

River: ($208) Q (2 players)
SB bets $97 and is all-in, Hero calls $96 and is all-in

Results: $400 pot ($1.25 rake)
Final Board: 2 Q Q 3 Q
SB showed Q K and won $398.75 ($198.75 net)
Hero mucked 9 9 and lost (-$200 net)

[Roomet]

Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

Andekate vendade otsa ikka satun

Kas vihjad sellele, et vastane mängis kehvasti? Kui, siis mida silmas pead?

[timz0333]

Re: [NL200 SH] muttaja

5bet i call QK-ga OOP ei saa vist väga hea plaan olla 100bb deep