[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[qbj0hn]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Enamus käed on siuksed nagu oleks liiga palju high stakes pokkerit vaadanud :D.
Või siis teiste päevikutes ei jää taolised käed lihtsalt silma.

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Üpris kindel, et valdav enamus käsi on tavapärased ja igavad - aga neid pole ju lihtsalt mõtet postitada!

[qbj0hn]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Arusaadav. Käte postitamise aktiivuse mõttes ja huvitavate käte poolest kindlasti parim päevik.

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Üle pika aja üks päev, kus jäin ka plussi. Kuigi eks see ikka üle kivide ja kändude tuli. Võtsin nelja Zoomi akna kõrvale ka 2 "tavalist" 6max lauada kätte, ent nood liialt fiššiseks ei osutunud. Aga üritan nüüd edaspidiga tavalisi kõrvale võtta, samas kindlasti aint paremad välja sõeludes. Kuu lõpuni veel paar päeva aega; neist teisipäev-kolmapäev-neljapäev saavad ka "mängupäevad olema" - üritan neist viimast võtta ja kuu võimalikult väikese kahjumiga lõpetada.

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Mõned käed ka. Ärge kartke kommenteerida ega küsida. Koos teeme minust vähem spewy mängija :P

1. Ei tea tagantjärele, miks turnis Check-Raise peale ei läinud. Vb hooletusviga. Samas allinni call on väga kergelt +EV, niiet seda ma ka tegin:

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $113.18 (113.2 bb)
SB: $109.22 (109.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $113.78 (113.8 bb)
UTG: $182.95 (183 bb)
MP: $93.16 (93.2 bb)
CO: $114.35 (114.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 T
3 folds, BTN raises to $2.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $9, BTN calls $6.50

Flop: ($18.50) 6 5 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $10.60, BTN calls $10.60

Turn: ($39.70) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $22.74, BTN raises to $93.58 and is all-in, Hero calls $70.84

River: ($226.86) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $226.86 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 5 Q 4 5
BTN showed A Q and lost (-$113.18 net)
Hero showed 7 T and won $224.06 ($110.88 net)


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2. Kes ennast villases ära tunneb? Ülimalt kartlik mäng seni tema poolt, olen pmst aint nutsu otsa lennanud. Seega see käsi oli küll suur üllatus. Samas setiga shovet ei oota.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $473.37 (473.4 bb)
Hero (SB): $104.73 (104.7 bb)
BB: $120.47 (120.5 bb)
UTG: $205.33 (205.3 bb)
MP: $506.10 (506.1 bb)
CO: $113.28 (113.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K Q
3 folds, BTN raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $9, BB folds, BTN calls $6.50

Flop: ($19) Q 5 K (2 players)
Hero bets $10.88, BTN raises to $464.37 and is all-in, Hero calls $84.85

Turn: ($210.46) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($210.46) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $210.46 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 5 K 7 T
BTN showed A J and won $207.66 ($102.93 net)
Hero showed K Q and lost (-$104.73 net)


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3. Sama eestlasest villase vastu. Ei mdiagi erilist.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $108.07 (108.1 bb)
SB: $102.50 (102.5 bb)
BB: $335.79 (335.8 bb)
UTG: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $102.56 (102.6 bb)
CO: $48.50 (48.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
UTG raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, UTG calls $6

Flop: ($19.50) 4 7 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $11.17, UTG calls $11.17

Turn: ($41.84) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $19.98, UTG calls $19.98

River: ($81.80) 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $67.92, UTG calls $59.85 and is all-in

Results: $201.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 7 2 3 9
Hero showed K K and won $198.70 ($98.70 net)
UTG showed J J and lost (-$100 net)



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4. Shove tundus parim lahendus.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $98.36 (98.4 bb)
SB: $100 (100 bb)
BB: $149.21 (149.2 bb)
Hero (UTG): $100 (100 bb)
MP: $44.88 (44.9 bb)
CO: $123.46 (123.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9 J
Hero raises to $3, 4 folds, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($18.50) 9 7 T (2 players)
BB bets $8.83, Hero raises to $20, BB calls $11.17

Turn: ($58.50) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $71 and is all-in, BB calls $71

River: ($200.50) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $200.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 7 T 9 4
BB showed Q Q and lost (-$100 net)
Hero showed 9 J and won $197.70 ($97.70 net)


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6. Väga kartlik-passiivne regular. Eks tal seal nelik oli...

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $103.68 (103.7 bb)
SB: $48 (48 bb)
BB: $116.89 (116.9 bb)
UTG: $383.92 (383.9 bb)
MP: $202.47 (202.5 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
UTG folds, MP raises to $3, CO folds, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, MP calls $6

Flop: ($19.50) 6 Q Q (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $11.17, MP calls $11.17

Turn: ($41.84) 3 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($41.84) 4 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $23.97, MP raises to $47.94, Hero folds

Results: $89.78 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 Q Q 3 4
Hero mucked K K and lost (-$44.14 net)
MP mucked and won $86.98 ($42.84 net)


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7. Ise usun siiamaani, et pikas plaanis rändom fiššide vastu +EV :)

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $100 (100 bb)
SB: $131.35 (131.4 bb)
BB: $141.07 (141.1 bb)
UTG: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $159.50 (159.5 bb)
CO: $166.18 (166.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J 9
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB raises to $5, BB folds, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($11) 5 J 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.30, SB raises to $20, Hero calls $13.70

Turn: ($51) 3 (2 players)
SB bets $50, Hero raises to $75 and is all-in, SB calls $25

River: ($201) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $201 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 5 J 6 3 8
Hero showed J 9 and lost (-$100 net)
SB showed A A and won $198.20 ($98.20 net)


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8. Mõlemad vastased loose-tohlakad.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $30.93 (30.9 bb)
SB: $109.31 (109.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $105 (105 bb)
UTG: $222.11 (222.1 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $170.20 (170.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 8
3 folds, BTN raises to $3, SB calls $2.50, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($9) T J 9 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $6, SB raises to $12, Hero raises to $102 and is all-in, BTN calls $21.93 and is all-in, SB calls $90

Turn: ($240.93) K (3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($240.93) K (3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $240.93 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T J 9 K K
BTN showed J T and lost (-$30.93 net)
SB showed A J and lost (-$105 net)
Hero showed 7 8 and won $238.13 ($133.13 net)


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9. Halleluuuuja. See käsi tegi meele rõõmsaks.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $100 (100 bb)
SB: $112.71 (112.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $105.20 (105.2 bb)
UTG: $139.43 (139.4 bb)
MP: $250.48 (250.5 bb)
CO: $92.74 (92.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
4 folds, SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, SB calls $6

Flop: ($18) Q 3 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10.31, SB calls $10.31

Turn: ($38.62) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $29, Hero raises to $85.89 and is all-in, SB calls $56.89

River: ($210.40) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $210.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 3 7 4 6
SB showed 7 A and lost (-$105.20 net)
Hero showed Q A and won $207.60 ($102.40 net)


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10. Turnil bettisin väikselt, et ta K-ga tõstma saada. Päriselt ka. Villane fišš.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $36.38 (36.4 bb)
Hero (SB): $102 (102 bb)
BB: $201.93 (201.9 bb)
UTG: $100.50 (100.5 bb)
MP: $303.30 (303.3 bb)
CO: $100.50 (100.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A K
4 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6) Q T J (2 players)
Hero bets $4.29, BB calls $4.29

Turn: ($14.58) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.96, BB raises to $13.92, Hero raises to $94.71 and is all-in, BB calls $80.79

River: ($204) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $204 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q T J 9 6
Hero showed A K and won $201.20 ($99.20 net)
BB showed 7 K and lost (-$102 net)

[anatoli grinder]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

1. Ei tea tagantjärele, miks turnis Check-Raise peale ei läinud. Vb hooletusviga. Samas allinni call on väga kergelt +EV, niiet seda ma ka tegin:

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $113.18 (113.2 bb)
SB: $109.22 (109.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $113.78 (113.8 bb)
UTG: $182.95 (183 bb)
MP: $93.16 (93.2 bb)
CO: $114.35 (114.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 T
3 folds, BTN raises to $2.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $9, BTN calls $6.50

Flop: ($18.50) 6 5 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $10.60, BTN calls $10.60

Turn: ($39.70) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $22.74, BTN raises to $93.58 and is all-in, Hero calls $70.84

River: ($226.86) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $226.86 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 5 Q 4 5
BTN showed A Q and lost (-$113.18 net)
Hero showed 7 T and won $224.06 ($110.88 net)


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1. käes kui villasele panna rangesse kõik setid + vahel ka kõrgemad mastit6mbed siis see call küll kuidagi + ev ei saa olla.

7. käsi foldiks random fishide vastu flopis. Kui mingit erilist readi ei ole siis üldjuhul fish ei bluffi seal. Jätkaks ehk AJ -ga , aga sellegi suudaks turnis foldida selle beti peale. Seal on alati käsi vastas.

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Hmm, ma ei oska pokerstoves piisavalt mässata, ent kui mul on Qx vastu 34% ja seti vastu 29,5% ning mul on vaja 31% equityt, siis peaks see ära tulema küll. Mastitõmme on seal muidugi võimalik, ent antud mängija puhul välistasin selle kindlasti. Pigem oleks loogilisemad käed A5 ja A4 (kuigi jah, nood võivad mõlemad koos mastitõmbega olla).

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Khuul. Raske aru saada, miks nii lollilt barreldada. Mingit riidi mul polnud. Kõhutunde pealt callisin. Ei old tiltis ega midagi.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $100 (100 bb)
SB: $261.27 (261.3 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $171.38 (171.4 bb)
UTG+2: $31.62 (31.6 bb)
MP1: $48.50 (48.5 bb)
MP2: $283.68 (283.7 bb)
MP3: $94.76 (94.8 bb)
CO: $96.71 (96.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 6
3 folds, MP2 raises to $2.22, MP3 folds, CO calls $2.22, Hero calls $2.22, 2 folds

Flop: ($8.16) 5 3 Q (3 players)
MP2 bets $4.36, CO folds, Hero calls $4.36

Turn: ($16.88) 9 (2 players)
MP2 bets $13.21, Hero calls $13.21

River: ($43.30) A (2 players)
MP2 bets $33.90, Hero calls $33.90

Results: $111.10 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 5 3 Q 9 A
Hero showed A 6 and won $108.30 ($54.61 net)
MP2 showed J K and lost (-$53.69 net)

[udikaz]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

turnis callides siis riveris ju easy call juba. vastase poolt ei ole ju ka halb mäng. kui river A või poti ei ole saab ta sult foldi ju

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

turnis callides siis riveris ju easy call juba. vastase poolt ei ole ju ka halb mäng. kui river A või poti ei ole saab ta sult foldi ju

Fullringis rainbow boardil, positsioonist väljas, flopil kahe vastase vastu, pmst ilma korralike backdoor draw'deta = raha põletamine. Mul on seal ju üli harva käsi, mis riveri ässa kardab.

[udikaz]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

ja mida ta repib? no preflop raiser, standard cbet blank flopil. ainult setid or AQ. aga ta võidab selle poti palju tihedamini kui sina oma A6-ga. sulle riverisse sobivaid kaarte kipub väheks jääma blank boardi 3 barrel vastase poolt. sul ei saa ju mitte midagi olla tglt ma edaspidi katsun vähem sõna võtta 9max holdemi kohapealt.. pole seda kunagi regulaarselt mänginud.

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Üldiselt jätkan alla EV jooksmist (kokku täpselt 7k juba sel kuul...) ent tänagi plussis. Öösel paar tundi veel plaanis. Senised mõned huvitavamad käed lisaks eelpostitatule:

1. Mulle meeldib nutsiga check-raisida :). Vastase WSWSF oli vaid 30, ehk pmst ma ei tahtnud, et ta nt AA turnil järele chekiks. AK ja QQ stäkib ta ju nkn ära. Elu sees ei usu ka, et siuke tüüp turnil sellisel laual ilma käeta teise barreli paneks. Kui sain flopil reraisi otsa, sõitis katus ära ja vajutasin call. Lõpp hea, kõik hea, siiski.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $122.84 (122.8 bb)
SB: $117.29 (117.3 bb)
BB: $104.28 (104.3 bb)
UTG: $105.62 (105.6 bb)
MP: $100.84 (100.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN raises to $9, 2 folds, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($19.50) Q K K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $9, Hero raises to $27.31, BTN raises to $50, Hero calls $22.69

Turn: ($119.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $63.84 and is all-in, Hero calls $41 and is all-in

River: ($201.50) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $201.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q K K 7 K
BTN showed Q A and lost (-$100 net)
Hero showed K Q and won $198.70 ($98.70 net)


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2. Näide, kuidas ei TOHIKS mängida (JJ-ga). Riveri bet on seal 90% kordades puhtsalt value võtmiselt täpselt selliselt käelt, nagu villasel oli.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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BTN: $177.63 (177.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $115.89 (115.9 bb)
BB: $303.36 (303.4 bb)
UTG+1: $206.51 (206.5 bb)
UTG+2: $197.25 (197.3 bb)
MP1: $33.48 (33.5 bb)
MP2: $100 (100 bb)
MP3: $106.50 (106.5 bb)
CO: $90.07 (90.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
3 folds, MP2 raises to $2.85, 3 folds, Hero raises to $9, BB folds, MP2 calls $6.15

Flop: ($19) T 5 Q (2 players)
Hero bets $10.88, MP2 calls $10.88

Turn: ($40.76) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks

River: ($40.76) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $29.19, MP2 calls $29.19

Results: $99.14 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T 5 Q 6 7
Hero showed K K and won $96.34 ($47.27 net)
MP2 mucked J J and lost (-$49.07 net)

[qbj0hn]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Teises käes betiks turni ka 100%, pole mitte midagi seal karta ja turni kaart täiesti ebaoluline. Jube random check.

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Teises käes betiks turni ka 100%, pole mitte midagi seal karta ja turni kaart täiesti ebaoluline. Jube random check.

6maxis betin jah pmst alati ka teise (ja kolmanda) tänava, ent fullringis MP pealt avava niti vastu ei tundu see enam nii hea mõte. BvBTN kindlasti teeks seda.

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Öine sess kõige paremini ei läinud. Coolerdati mõnuga, kõikusin palju ja lõpetasin sessi kerges miinuses. Lisaks kahele allolevale kaotasin ka väga nõmedaid väikesi potte. Võidud olid kõik ausad :). Arvan, et mängisin hästi.

1. cooler

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $104.50 (104.5 bb)
SB: $428.47 (428.5 bb)
BB: $235.74 (235.7 bb)
UTG: $301.61 (301.6 bb)
MP: $310.86 (310.9 bb)
CO: $299.64 (299.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 7
UTG raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, UTG raises to $19, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($39.50) 2 9 A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $15.72, UTG calls $15.72

Turn: ($70.94) 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($70.94) Q (2 players)
UTG bets $47.69, Hero raises to $69.78 and is all-in, UTG calls $22.09

Results: $210.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 9 A 7 Q
Hero showed 7 7 and lost (-$104.50 net)
UTG showed Q Q and won $207.70 ($103.20 net)


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2. cooler

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $100 (100 bb)
SB: $100.96 (101 bb)
BB: $243.22 (243.2 bb)
UTG: $405.78 (405.8 bb)
MP: $139.70 (139.7 bb)
CO: $152.04 (152 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
2 folds, CO raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, SB raises to $20, 2 folds, Hero calls $11

Flop: ($44) 8 Q 8 (2 players)
SB bets $13, Hero calls $13

Turn: ($70) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $19, Hero raises to $67 and is all-in, SB calls $48

River: ($204) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $204 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 Q 8 5 T
Hero showed A A and lost (-$100 net)
SB showed Q Q and won $201.20 ($101.20 net)

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Üks huvitav käsi tänasest sessist. Flopil tekib nii ebameeldiv SPR (eks ise olen süüdi...), et midagi tarka ei oskagi teha. Matemaatiliselt on kindlasti shove +EV (kuna vastane foldib lihtsalt NII palju), ent on see parim lahendus? Ei mõelnud välja ja callisin.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $106.07 (106.1 bb)
SB: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $222.66 (222.7 bb)
UTG: $129.04 (129 bb)
MP: $108.19 (108.2 bb)
CO: $106.35 (106.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A J
3 folds, BTN raises to $2, SB folds, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($4.50) 8 3 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.58, Hero raises to $8.25, BTN raises to $18, Hero calls $9.75

Turn: ($40.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($40.50) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $29.01, BTN folds

Results: $40.50 pot ($1.82 rake)
Final Board: 8 3 8 7 6
BTN mucked and lost (-$20 net)
Hero mucked A J and won $38.68 ($18.68 net)