[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Panen siis lõpuks järeltulevate põlvede tarvis juuni graafiku ka üles. Esimene kolmandik nl200, edasi 100 ja 50.



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[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Juulis nüüd 2 päeva volüümitanud ja [täida ise sõimuga]. Ent just lõpetasin üle pika aja ka ühe eduka sessiooni. Vb oli asi selles, et olin enne paar õlut ära joonud. Vb lihtsalt heas kaardijooksus - 800 käe kohta sain WSWSF 62% :P. Igal juhul tänu sellele minisessioonile postitan taas mõned käed siia. Kõik tänasest päevast, sest nüüd öösel oli kõik ok ehk ei midagi mainimisväärset.

1. Tagantjärele mõeldes ikka üpris kohutavalt mängitud. Ju ma tiltis olin ja tahtsin kangesti, et vastane miski võimsa calli rändom paari või Kx-iga teeks. Mõistlikum vist siiski turn chekkida.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $180.27 (180.3 bb)
Hero (SB): $100 (100 bb)
BB: $120.36 (120.4 bb)
UTG: $125.50 (125.5 bb)
MP: $127.89 (127.9 bb)
CO: $121.80 (121.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A K
3 folds, BTN raises to $3, Hero raises to $8, BB folds, BTN calls $5

Flop: ($17) K J J (2 players)
Hero bets $9.74, BTN calls $9.74

Turn: ($36.48) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $20.90, BTN calls $20.90

River: ($78.28) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $61.36 and is all-in, BTN calls $61.36

Results: $201 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: K J J 7 3
BTN showed Q J and won $198.20 ($98.20 net)
Hero showed A K and lost (-$100 net)



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2. Vist keeruline foldida? Kui säänsed lükked turnil ja riveril on üldjuhul ka rämedate fiššide poolt pigem väga tugevad.

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Hero (BTN): $101.50 (101.5 bb)
SB: $221.39 (221.4 bb)
BB: $101.50 (101.5 bb)
UTG: $116.62 (116.6 bb)
MP: $154.79 (154.8 bb)
CO: $80.15 (80.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
UTG folds, MP raises to $2.80, CO calls $2.80, Hero raises to $10, 3 folds, CO calls $7.20

Flop: ($24.30) 8 4 T (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $16.62, CO calls $16.62

Turn: ($57.54) Q (2 players)
CO bets $53.53 and is all-in, Hero calls $53.53

River: ($164.60) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $164.60 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 4 T Q 9
Hero showed A A and lost (-$80.15 net)
CO showed J 9 and won $161.80 ($81.65 net)


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3. Sisetunne ütles, et pean riveril foldima, aga ei... Sain terve päeva selt samalt fiššiselt regilt tappa

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BTN: $128.40 (128.4 bb)
SB: $358.98 (359 bb)
Hero (BB): $101.16 (101.2 bb)
UTG: $84.82 (84.8 bb)
MP: $134.79 (134.8 bb)
CO: $67.40 (67.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 6
UTG raises to $2, MP calls $2, CO folds, BTN calls $2, SB folds, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($8.50) 9 T 6 (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets $6.50, BTN folds, Hero calls $6.50, UTG folds

Turn: ($21.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $16, Hero calls $16

River: ($53.50) J (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $39, Hero calls $39

Results: $131.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 T 6 2 J
Hero mucked 6 6 and lost (-$63.50 net)
MP showed 9 9 and won $128.70 ($65.20 net)


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4. Raisima peab, aga kas ka foldima? Statside järgi polnud tegu pigem regiga. Üpris loose, muu mittemidagiütlev

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $128.71 (128.7 bb)
SB: $132.23 (132.2 bb)
BB: $97.11 (97.1 bb)
UTG: $260.25 (260.3 bb)
MP: $97 (97 bb)
Hero (CO): $106 (106 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5 5
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 2 8 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($6.50) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero calls $4

River: ($14.50) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $11, Hero raises to $32.51, BB raises to $90.11 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $79.52 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 8 9 5 4
BB mucked and won $76.72 ($37.21 net)
Hero mucked 5 5 and lost (-$39.51 net)




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5. Üks valusalt meelde jöönud stiilinäide ka eilsest. Tightagro hea reg, kellega ma pidevalt hädas. Ega see käsi pmst postitamist väärt olegi...

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $159.05 (159.1 bb)
SB: $111.96 (112 bb)
BB: $335.57 (335.6 bb)
Hero (UTG): $114.21 (114.2 bb)
MP: $68.04 (68 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9 9
Hero raises to $3, MP folds, CO calls $3, 3 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 2 A 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.29, CO raises to $11, Hero calls $6.71

Turn: ($29.50) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $20, Hero calls $20

River: ($69.50) A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $66 and is all-in, Hero calls $66

Results: $201.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 A 6 9 A
Hero showed 9 9 and lost (-$100 net)
CO showed 6 A and won $198.70 ($98.70 net)

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Iga päev võiks säänne olla! Mängisin väga tightilt ja ka postflop ei hakanud midagi leiutama. Sinna juurde ka hea kaardijooks. Ühtegi huvitavat kätt polnud.



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[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Siuke käsi pani mind mõtlema. Kas mul on seal üldse kunagi mõtet check-raisida?

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BTN: $104.50 (104.5 bb)
SB: $100.50 (100.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $100 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $106.90 (106.9 bb)
UTG+2: $425.24 (425.2 bb)
MP1: $104.50 (104.5 bb)
MP2: $176.15 (176.2 bb)
MP3: $76.32 (76.3 bb)
CO: $87 (87 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 T
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $2.77, 3 folds, CO calls $2.77, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.77

Flop: ($8.81) 7 9 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $6.30, CO folds, Hero raises to $18.90, UTG+2 raises to $422.47 and is all-in, Hero calls $78.33 and is all-in

Turn: ($203.27) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($203.27) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $203.27 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 9 8 6 T
Hero showed 8 T and won $200.47 ($100.47 net)
UTG+2 showed 7 7 and lost (-$100 net)
CO mucked and lost (-$2.77 net)

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Korralik mäng ei taha kuidagi välja tulla. See kuu küll 4BI plussis, ent EV -5BI. Enda arust eriti ei vusserda, aga ju siis tänu sellistele kätele olen plussis:

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BTN: $118.69 (118.7 bb)
SB: $258.84 (258.8 bb)
BB: $76.65 (76.7 bb)
UTG: $101.50 (101.5 bb)
MP: $218.29 (218.3 bb)
Hero (CO): $108.30 (108.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
UTG raises to $3, MP folds, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, BB calls $7, UTG raises to $25, Hero raises to $108.30 and is all-in, BB calls $68.65 and is all-in, UTG calls $76.50 and is all-in

Flop: ($280.15) 7 6 J (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: ($280.15) 3 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($280.15) K (3 players, 3 are all-in)

Results: $280.15 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 6 J 3 K
BB mucked A A and lost (-$76.65 net)
UTG showed A A and lost (-$101.50 net)
Hero showed K K and won $277.35 ($175.85 net)

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Logisin Triobetti sisse. Vaatasin, et 4,5 euri. Võtsin 4€ 6max "blaze" lahti. 3, käsi BTN peal JJ; flop 932 mastõmbega. Vastane donkab. Tõstan. Vastane tõstab üle. Panen nuppe. Oih, oligi set :P

[levis]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

T8s-ga ma arvan, et kui lööd plussid ja miinused paberile, siis check/raise on ülekaalukalt parim, samas hetkel mulle näib isegi donkamine okei lüke. Check/call samas IMO näib teiste valikute kõrval küll väga kahvatu välja.

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Teine küsimus selle käe kohta on muidugi, kas 77 on üldse mõtet seal villasel nupud sisse uhada? Fullringis multiway potis tunub minu jaoks see pigem isegi fold. Või mis?

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Täna ikka kohutav ikaldus olnud. Kõik callid "valed", mistõttu ka 8,5BI miinust hetkel. Ent hetk tagasi oli 2BI rohkem miinust:

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BTN: $112.31 (112.3 bb)
SB: $125.58 (125.6 bb)
BB: $89.66 (89.7 bb)
UTG: $202.87 (202.9 bb)
MP: $104 (104 bb)
Hero (CO): $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q
UTG raises to $3, MP folds, Hero calls $3, BTN raises to $12, 2 folds, UTG calls $9, Hero raises to $28, BTN calls $16, UTG raises to $202.87 and is all-in, Hero calls $72 and is all-in, BTN calls $84.31 and is all-in

Flop: ($326.12) 3 5 J (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: ($326.12) 9 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($326.12) 3 (3 players, 3 are all-in)

Results: $326.12 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 5 J 9 3
BTN showed A K and won $12.31 (-$100 net)
UTG showed A K and won $12.31 (-$100 net)
Hero showed Q Q and won $298.70 ($198.70 net)

[Spewmonkey]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Teine küsimus selle käe kohta on muidugi, kas 77 on üldse mõtet seal villasel nupud sisse uhada? Fullringis multiway potis tunub minu jaoks see pigem isegi fold. Või mis?

Foldid check/raise peale? 3bet/foldiksid? Enda image vastu? Ära otsi vabandusi, otsi lahendusi.

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Ei otsigi mingeid vabandusi. Panin end vastase situatsiooni.

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Tagasi nl50. Vaatan, et ilma boonuseid arvestamata nüüd kogu mu Pokerstarsi teenistus ka miinuses. Nukker värk ja tuju on null. Saaks ma siis vähemalt aru, mida ma valesti teen :)

(peale selle, et mängin liiga palju)

[Potsataja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

ZOOM tundub olema ikka puhtakujuline "rake generator". Ma eriti ringi ei rända ehk kas näiteks 2+2´s on graphe, mis suure kätearvu korral näitavad ka suurt (2,5BB/100+) winrate´i?

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Godmodesin natuke nl50 ja peab ütlema, et see teeb tuju heaks. Peale selle, et ma jooksin nutsult (miks selline asi peab level alla tulles olema, aga mitte level üles minnes:P), on ka vastased weak-tightid ehk exploititavad. Tõenäoliselt öeldakse seda muidugi alati, kui levelis alla tullakse, vahet pole, kõrge või madal see level varem oli.

Paar näidet godmodest:

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BTN: $67.38 (134.8 bb)
SB: $50 (100 bb)
BB: $49.44 (98.9 bb)
UTG: $85.76 (171.5 bb)
Hero (MP): $100.59 (201.2 bb)
CO: $22.25 (44.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A 5
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.50, CO folds, BTN calls $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.75) 3 4 7 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.40, BTN folds, BB raises to $11.80, Hero calls $8.40

Turn: ($28.35) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $20.50, Hero raises to $42.50, BB calls $15.64 and is all-in

River: ($100.63) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $100.63 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 3 4 7 2 J
BB showed 7 4 and lost (-$49.44 net)
Hero showed A 5 and won $98.13 ($48.69 net)

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Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)
SB: $65.64 (131.3 bb)
BB: $72.65 (145.3 bb)
UTG: $58.14 (116.3 bb)
MP: $145.58 (291.2 bb)
CO: $64.34 (128.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 6
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB raises to $3.50, BB folds, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) 2 3 Q (2 players)
SB bets $3.58, Hero calls $3.58

Turn: ($14.66) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $7, Hero calls $7

River: ($28.66) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $15.25, Hero raises to $35.92 and is all-in, SB calls $20.67

Results: $100.50 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 2 3 Q 5 9
Hero showed 4 6 and won $98 ($48 net)
SB showed 9 Q and lost (-$50 net)

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Hero (BTN): $50.50 (101 bb)
SB: $46.35 (92.7 bb)
BB: $66.84 (133.7 bb)
UTG: $60.31 (120.6 bb)
MP: $67.44 (134.9 bb)
CO: $135.36 (270.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.75, BB folds

Flop: ($2.50) J 9 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.50) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.50) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.88, SB raises to $7.76, Hero raises to $48 and is all-in, SB calls $36.09 and is all-in

Results: $93.20 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: J 9 5 2 A
Hero showed 4 A and won $90.70 ($44.35 net)
SB showed 8 7 and lost (-$46.35 net)

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Hero (BTN): $70.16 (140.3 bb)
SB: $56.58 (113.2 bb)
BB: $137.28 (274.6 bb)
UTG: $61.13 (122.3 bb)
MP: $44.36 (88.7 bb)
CO: $50.75 (101.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 8
UTG folds, MP raises to $1, CO folds, Hero raises to $3, SB folds, BB calls $2.50, MP calls $2

Flop: ($9.25) 5 4 2 (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $5.55, BB calls $5.55, MP folds

Turn: ($20.35) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $13.65, BB calls $13.65

River: ($47.65) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $47.96 and is all-in, BB folds

Results: $47.65 pot ($2.14 rake)
Final Board: 5 4 2 6 K
Hero mucked 7 8 and won $45.51 ($23.31 net)
BB mucked and lost (-$22.20 net)

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Ja üks call ka. Vastase kohta oli 3 kätt infot: VPIP 3/3; PFR 3/2; WSWSF 2/2; raise CB 1/1. Sellest piisas.

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BTN: $82.11 (164.2 bb)
SB: $78.70 (157.4 bb)
BB: $62.52 (125 bb)
UTG: $94.89 (189.8 bb)
MP: $47.64 (95.3 bb)
Hero (CO): $95.04 (190.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 5 Q K (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, BTN raises to $5, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($13.75) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $13, Hero calls $13

River: ($39.75) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $62.61 and is all-in, Hero calls $62.61

Results: $164.97 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 5 Q K 6 9
BTN showed T Q and lost (-$82.11 net)
Hero showed K Q and won $162.47 ($80.36 net)

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

2 vusserdatud kätt ka:

Riveril oleks iga ärtu korral ka leadinud. Sitasti mängitud eniveis. Riveril callisin selle pärast, et villase raise oli kuskil 0,2 sekki pärast minu betti. Ei uskunud, et betsizingu jne peale üldse ei mõelda nutsu hittides.

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BTN: $51.22 (102.4 bb)
SB: $50.50 (101 bb)
BB: $117.51 (235 bb)
UTG: $35.62 (71.2 bb)
Hero (MP): $94.19 (188.4 bb)
CO: $14.36 (28.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7 8
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.50, CO folds, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 6 2 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($6.75) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($12.75) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $9.13, BTN raises to $45.22 and is all-in, Hero calls $36.09

Results: $103.19 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 6 2 5 5 9
BTN showed 9 9 and won $100.69 ($49.47 net)
Hero showed 7 8 and lost (-$51.22 net)

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Turnil mul enam valikut polnud. Iga Jx oleks callinud, seetõttu bettisin suurelt. Ja JT; J2 ja 22 oleks ma nkn kinni maksnud. Natuke ülbeks läksin vast.

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BTN: $72.91 (145.8 bb)
SB: $63.52 (127 bb)
BB: $55.92 (111.8 bb)
Hero (UTG): $66.15 (132.3 bb)
MP: $64.53 (129.1 bb)
CO: $50 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A J
Hero raises to $1.50, MP folds, CO calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.75) J 2 J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $2.72, BB calls $2.72, Hero raises to $9.98, CO calls $7.26, BB calls $7.26

Turn: ($34.69) T (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $54.67 and is all-in, CO calls $38.52 and is all-in, BB folds

River: ($111.73) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $111.73 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: J 2 J T 8
BB mucked and lost (-$11.48 net)
Hero showed A J and lost (-$50.00 net)
CO showed 2 2 and won $109.23 ($59.23 net)