[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[HerrJanks]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Kui ma su kätt ei näeks, siis selle mängu põhjal ütleks et 99% hittisid turnis flushi või võtsid neliku või boatiga sellise line'i ja ei annaks ise ka sentigi kui just history't pole.
Miks mitte turn dongata? Isiklikult arvan et saad siis rohkem valuet kui selle liiniga mis võtsid.

[fyte]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Mõni nitisem tegelane võib 8x seal riveril foldida küll, kuna biidib vaid airballi.

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Turni donkamine on jah hea mõte.

Üks käsi veel, kus oli keeruline hetk. Ma pärast turni check-calli üpriski kindel, et villasel on T parema kikkeriga. Samas tundus, et peaks saama korraliku panusega poti maha võtta, sest ma ei saanud ju flopil ühegi tõmbega callida. Ägises pool minutit ja callis...

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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Hero (BTN): $100.57 (100.6 bb)
SB: $100 (100 bb)
BB: $46.44 (46.4 bb)
UTG+1: $153.04 (153 bb)
UTG+2: $154.28 (154.3 bb)
MP1: $160.82 (160.8 bb)
MP2: $103 (103 bb)
MP3: $44.25 (44.3 bb)
CO: $97 (97 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 T
UTG+1 calls $1, 5 folds, Hero calls $1, SB completes, BB checks

Flop: ($4) 2 T 5 (4 players)
SB bets $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($10) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7.16, SB calls $7.16

River: ($24.32) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $17.42, SB calls $17.42

Results: $59.16 pot ($2.66 rake)
Final Board: 2 T 5 5 7
Hero showed 9 T and lost (-$28.58 net)
SB showed K T and won $56.50 ($27.92 net)

[fyte]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Sellisel riveril ei näe tavalise suurusega betil mingisugust mõtet - 1. variant on järgi checkida ja loota et oled hea, ja 2. variant on overbettida ja saada folde >95% ajast.
Pre on selline overlimp standard ;o?

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Ei ole standard, ent fullringis nitid kipuvad limpraisima ning ma ei tahtnud selle ohvriks langeda

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Kui face-up saab mu käsi olla :P

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Hero (BTN): $101.50 (101.5 bb)
SB: $5.92 (5.9 bb)
BB: $270.81 (270.8 bb)
UTG: $127.81 (127.8 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $242.58 (242.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T T
UTG raises to $3, MP calls $3, CO calls $3, Hero calls $3, SB raises to $5.92 and is all-in, 2 folds, MP calls $2.92, CO calls $2.92, Hero raises to $101.50 and is all-in, 2 folds

Flop: ($27.68) K Q 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($27.68) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($27.68) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $27.68 pot ($1.25 rake)
Final Board: K Q 5 5 A
Hero showed T T and won $26.43 ($20.51 net)
SB showed 6 8 and lost (-$5.92 net)

[HerrJanks]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

wtf UTG avas ja foldis selles spotis? Või on see mingi zoomi viga?
See lüke on ju hea, aga nad ei saa sind siin ka callida või kui seda teevad, siis kehvemaga, neil ei saa siin sisuliselt kunagi ju tugevamat kätt olla:)

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Ei ole Zoomi viga. UTG oli tight-üliagressiivne reg, ei saa tõesti aru, miks ta foldis

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Sessiooni lõpetuseks 2 "im so good" kätt ka (pärast mida hakkasin muidugi kohe vusserdama ka):

1. Tõenäoliselt väga halb reg oli vastas. Mängib ka nl200 Zoomi. WSWSF 35%... 3bet pottides pani pmst ühe barreli (OOP turni CB 35%; IP 15%); turni check-fold 3bet potis 3/5, skip turn CB; fold river 80%. Niiet selle tüübi vastu ma foldin 3betile vaid offsuit rääbisega ja plaanin floatida kui pihta ei saa. Aga kuna ma sain nii hästi pihta, siis ma ei tahtnud, et ta turni läbi checkiks ja tõstsin kohe, kuigi laud oli väga ohutu.

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Hero (BTN): $112.01 (112 bb)
SB: $471.52 (471.5 bb)
BB: $274.90 (274.9 bb)
UTG: $120.16 (120.2 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $123.18 (123.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 Q
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB raises to $8, BB folds, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($17) 8 Q 7 (2 players)
SB bets $10.71, Hero raises to $25.42, SB raises to $463.52 and is all-in, Hero calls $78.59 and is all-in

Turn: ($225.02) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($225.02) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $225.02 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 Q 7 7 4
Hero showed 8 Q and won $222.22 ($110.21 net)
SB showed Q K and lost (-$112.01 net)

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2. Las vastane teeb ägiseva calli ja maksab mulle :)

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BTN: $36.71 (36.7 bb)
SB: $100.50 (100.5 bb)
BB: $151.42 (151.4 bb)
UTG+1: $47.99 (48 bb)
UTG+2: $63.70 (63.7 bb)
MP1: $85.32 (85.3 bb)
MP2: $50 (50 bb)
Hero (MP3): $100 (100 bb)
CO: $130.12 (130.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A K
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, 4 folds, UTG+2 calls $3

Flop: ($11.50) A 7 9 (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $6.58, UTG+2 calls $6.58

Turn: ($24.66) 2 (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $88.42 and is all-in, UTG+2 calls $52.12

River: ($128.90) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $128.90 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A 7 9 2 4
UTG+2 showed J A and lost (-$63.70 net)
Hero showed A K and won $126.10 ($62.40 net)

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Et ei jääks muljet, et ma liialt hästi mängin, siis ka "nõmedad" käed:

1. Loose-agressive reg. Oli piisavalt missed drawsid, et ta maha callida... Vähamalt nii ma arvasin.

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BTN: $112.24 (112.2 bb)
SB: $100 (100 bb)
BB: $105.42 (105.4 bb)
UTG: $148.14 (148.1 bb)
MP: $265.50 (265.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $111.76 (111.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6 5
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $3, SB folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9.50) 6 A 5 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.44, BTN calls $5.44, BB folds

Turn: ($20.38) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $9.99, Hero calls $9.99

River: ($40.36) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $33.99, Hero calls $33.99

Results: $108.34 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 A 5 8 3
BTN showed 6 6 and won $105.54 ($53.12 net)
Hero mucked 6 5 and lost (-$52.42 net)


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2. Üpris loose passiivne tüüp. Pidin ta kõrgema seti peale panema... Ei tea, kas fold turnis on siin pikas perspektiivis parem?

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BTN: $380.92 (380.9 bb)
SB: $132.38 (132.4 bb)
BB: $94.50 (94.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $109.79 (109.8 bb)
MP: $166.70 (166.7 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 2 2
Hero raises to $3, MP folds, CO calls $3, 3 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 4 2 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.29, CO calls $4.29

Turn: ($16.08) A (2 players)
Hero bets $11.52, CO raises to $28, Hero calls $16.48

River: ($72.08) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $64.71 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $72.08 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 2 7 A 3
Hero mucked 2 2 and lost (-$35.29 net)
CO mucked and won $69.28 ($33.99 net)

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3. Suurim kaotus kogu sessiooni peale.

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BTN: $59.07 (59.1 bb)
SB: $72 (72 bb)
Hero (BB): $134.65 (134.7 bb)
UTG+1: $50 (50 bb)
UTG+2: $100 (100 bb)
MP1: $100 (100 bb)
MP2: $78.93 (78.9 bb)
MP3: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $176.24 (176.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 7
3 folds, MP2 raises to $2, 3 folds, SB calls $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($6) 6 T 9 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $2.86, SB raises to $13, Hero raises to $132.65 and is all-in, MP2 folds, SB calls $57 and is all-in

Turn: ($148.86) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($148.86) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $148.86 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 T 9 6 Q
SB showed T T and won $146.06 ($74.06 net)
Hero mucked 8 7 and lost (-$72 net)
MP2 mucked and lost (-$4.86 net)

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4. Suuruselt 2. kaotus. Ei usu, et turni shove parem kui call on. Samas riveril võiks hea regi vastu, nagu too oli, ehk isegi foldi leida

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Hero (BTN): $107.44 (107.4 bb)
SB: $100 (100 bb)
BB: $101 (101 bb)
UTG: $143.39 (143.4 bb)
MP: $59.08 (59.1 bb)
CO: $250.27 (250.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 3 7
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.50) 8 4 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.22, BB raises to $11, Hero calls $7.78

Turn: ($26.50) J (2 players)
BB bets $18, Hero calls $18

River: ($62.50) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $35, Hero calls $35

Results: $132.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 4 9 J 4
Hero mucked 3 7 and lost (-$66 net)
BB showed 8 8 and won $129.70 ($63.70 net)

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Jõle spewwwyks on mäng läinud pärast lõunapausi. Üritan end ikka ohjes hoida, ent...

Tüübid ägised ja callivad. Seis 1:1

1. käsi

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Hero (BTN): $102.50 (102.5 bb)
SB: $100 (100 bb)
BB: $51 (51 bb)
UTG: $269.21 (269.2 bb)
MP: $67 (67 bb)
CO: $145.60 (145.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 9
UTG raises to $2.70, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.70, 2 folds

Flop: ($6.90) Q 7 7 (2 players)
UTG bets $5.27, Hero calls $5.27

Turn: ($17.44) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $12.50, Hero calls $12.50

River: ($42.44) 8 (2 players)
UTG bets $28.37, Hero raises to $82.03 and is all-in, UTG calls $53.66

Results: $206.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 7 7 4 8
Hero showed 9 9 and lost (-$102.50 net)
UTG showed 7 6 and won $203.70 ($101.20 net)

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2. käsi

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BTN: $145.35 (145.4 bb)
SB: $77 (77 bb)
Hero (BB): $108.50 (108.5 bb)
UTG: $163.01 (163 bb)
MP: $109.83 (109.8 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 8
2 folds, CO raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 8 Q 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4.03, Hero calls $4.03

Turn: ($14.56) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $10.42, Hero calls $10.42

River: ($35.40) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $22, Hero raises to $91.05 and is all-in, CO calls $60.55 and is all-in

Results: $200.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 Q 8 3 7
Hero showed 6 8 and won $197.70 ($97.70 net)
CO showed K Q and lost (-$100 net)

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Mängin hetkel läpaka taga ja seega aint kahel laual. Seetõttu olen väga keskendunud ja teen tarku valikud. Aga see kaardijooks on KURADI HAIGE. Mõnus miinus nagu sellele kuule kohane. minu vähesed head lehed jooksevad toprange ja ... HAIGE.

[donkament]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Mis FRis teed, olen sind paar korda nl100s näinud.

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Olen 2 lauda fullringi lihtsalt kõrvale võtnud. A noh, stäkin seal KK alati ära, ent alati on AA vastas, kui calli saan :P

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Istun nii pasa neti otsas, et isegi selle kuu koletut graafikut ei saa üles laetud. 5,8k miinust, 6k makstud rake, 7k alla EV. Vohh.

Teist sellist kuud küll enam üle ei elaks.

Vana-Vigalasse Viina Viskama.