[FR degenn] Rage@PokerStars

[leits]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

noojah, kani õnnetu käsi .. 90/10

[Rage]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

puuuhh... taaskord pikim sess.. nõka üle 5000 handi.. unreal heater peal.. tegin siis kokku 266 taala kasumit.. vahepeal olin koguni 350 peal.. sealt kukkusin 320 peale ja siis lõpus keerati doomswitch põhja.. ja siis aint vaatasin kuidas kiiremini laudadest välja saaks..

igatahes.. põnev.. FTP's hooran depo boonust lahti... tahaks selle enne 16 augustit lahti saada siis saaks ka selle 100 taala boonuse omale võtta.. 80 taala on veel jäänud seda depo boonust... ja seekord passin peale seda ironmani challenget ka, vähemalt silver taseme tahaks lahti sebida seal saaks veel 50 taala BRile lisaks.. kõvasti grindimist see kuu:-D

sattusin kellegi teise päevikust arutelu lugema:

Väga huvitav, et 12/9/4 on kõige suuremad võitjad. Sest See on ikka väga nitine stat ning mängisin tegelikult ise pmst täpselt sama statiga siis kui kõige kõvemini NL50s võitsin. Aga viimasel ajal läxin natuke loosemaks ja hakkasin kõvasti igast tsirkust tegema ja sellest vist uber swing tuligi.
Aga hetkel 6maxis kuskil 20/16 on AWESOME :)

12/9 on pmst väga ABC preflop mäng. Ning kui sedasi mängida, siis ei teki ka postflopis keerulisi olukordi nõrkade kätega, easy money!
Ex NL100 proovin siis taas olla sama NIT :)

Üldiselt jah tundub, et need on väga tugeva distsipliini ja enesekontrolliga mängijad, kes mängivad karmi ABC pokkerit. Võibolla üks eripära on, mida võib veel välja tuua: flopi Cbetile folditakse vähe (keskmine 56%) ja samuti 3betile (keskmine samuti 56% kõigest!). Tundub, et märksõnad on POT CONTROL ja HAND READING.

võtsin siis ette enda statid.. alates 1 mai kuni praeguseni.. sealt maalt ma olen enamvähem stabiilselt NL25'te mänginud ja ca 2/3 oma BRist loonud.. ja statid järgmised 75k handi peale:

VPIP 12,3
PFR 9,5
UOPFR 12,5
aggF 4,28
3bet 3,8
fold vs 3bet 55,1
fold vs flop cbet 57,9

ja siis vaatasin veel viimast 20k handi, et kuhu poole arenenud olen ja tulemused järgmised:
VPIP 11,8
PFR 9,3
UOPFR 11,9
aggF 4,18
3bet 4.0
fold vs 3bet 55,5
fold vs flop cbet 63,4

tightimaks olen muutunud, veidi veel aggromaks:-) ja flopi cbeti peale foldin rohkem... hand readingu osas.. kui ma mingi 9 lauaga lasen, siis see osa jääb nõrgaks:-/ aga 4-6 laua peal suudan küll juba päris muhedalt vastaseid mängida... aga krdi FTP's ma ikka suudan peamiselt ennast break-evenina hoida.. ühte asja pean veel mingi aeg kontrollima.. et kas ma olen SB ja BB pealt loosemaks muutunud ja karsitan sealt limpereid rohkem.. hoolimata sellest et olen suht tight... on mul vast nendel positsioonidel leakid..

[Rage]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

mine... päris hea uudis.. see supermega boonus $100 vms kõigile pakuti.. ilmnes et seda sai depo boonusega korraga vabastada.. ehk täna laekus see mulle kontole... vajalikud punktid olen vahepeal ära teinud:-) ja samas on ka koguaeg depo boonust tilkunud (Y)

[Rage]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

Mõlemad vastased mingi 30/10 tüüpi donkid..

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 222803
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: $23.84
BTN: $5.00
Hero (SB): $27.16
BB: $5.00
UTG: $25.75
UTG+1: $25.91
MP1: $7.58
MP2: $25.68

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 9 9
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) 7 8 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $3, MP1 raises to $6.83 all in, Hero ??? [img]http://requests TIME, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls $3.83

Turn: ($16.16) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($16.16) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $16.16
UTG+1 shows K K (three of a kind, Kings)
MP1 shows A 8 (a pair of Eights)
UTG+1 wins $15.36
(Rake: $0.80)[/img]

flopis tehtud cbeti järgi ma paneks UTG+1 miskise suurema ülepaari peale mida ta nüüd kaitseb, millega see teine shorty shoves.. tra seda teab...

kas keegi nüüd miskite oddside järgi oskab mulle näidata ka.. mis ma selles käes oleks pidanud tegema?

[Rage]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

njahh.. pe**es päev.. -6BI kokku..

kohe alguses hakkas viltu kiskuma.. set over set, AA vs set, set vs maja, siis lihtsalt natukene sitta lauda... korra vähemalt sain fishi kolmikult majaga deep stack lauas rahad kätte.. aga siis lõpus kaks sitasti mängitud kätt ja panin lauad kinni.



ilgelt palju on ahve kes callivad preflopis AK'ga ja neile ma maksan oma AQ või AJ'ga kenasti rahad välja:-/

[Mr.Kylm]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

njahh.. pe**es päev.. -6BI kokku..

set vs maja

võimatu, sul pidi siis ka maja olema? või oli trips vs maja?

[Rage]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

võimatu, sul pidi siis ka maja olema? või oli trips vs maja?

krt enam ei mäletagi.. küllap vist oli trips.. või siis väiksem maja

[Rage]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

sitt jooks jätkub... kaardid ja laud mängivad ise.. vajuta ainult fold nuppu.. keegi ei respekti.. kõik cbetid callitakse või 3betitakse.. saad kolmiku.. siis ikka on vastasel see tore 68s mis talle masti või rea annab.. jne.. ühe suure poti võitsin A-high kui mu J kickerina oli suurem kui teise mehe 6.. ma nägin et tal midgai pold.. aga turniks olin ära stackinud ennast riveris allin.. ja call ja rahakott o.O

enivei.. hea et niigi läks.. suutsin aint -$10 peal lõpetada..

[Rage]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

betsize paika!!!

enivei.. hommikune sess tänu räigele EV joone löömisele +1BI

[Rage]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 226660
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG+1): $90.68
MP1: $27.67
MP2: $25.00
CO: $6.43
BTN: $23.20
SB: $15.67
BB: $14.74
UTG: $23.24

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with K A
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, MP1 calls $0.85, 3 folds, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.80) A 4 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, MP1 raises to $6.25, SB folds, Hero raises to $21.55, MP1 raises to $26.82 all in, Hero calls $5.27

[img]http://Turn: ($56.44) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($56.44) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $56.44
Hero shows K A (three of a kind, Aces)
MP1 shows 2 2 (a full house, Twos full of Aces)
MP1 wins $53.62
(Rake: $2.82)[/img]

kommentaare? vastane 20/7/3.5 3bet 4.3

[Rage]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

täna oli hea päev +$142 aga vaadates selle kuu graafikut.. ei saa meeldida

[Rage]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

ajaviiteks vaatasin kas mu KK preflop allinid on veel kasumis.. jep on küll..

[Aadu]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

Wow, mu KK on ikka väga roostes. JJ ja QQ olid mõlemad paar BI plussis.

[Rage]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

mõtlesin, et ikka jõle kahju, et Bodogis rakebacki ei saa kuigi ma viimasel ajal seal enam ei beati mängu ka... aga enivei.. meilide saatmine on tasuta ja tasub proovimist äkki saaks uue affiliate oma accile.

(Klõpsa sisu nägemiseks / peitmiseks)

Is it possible to change bonus code I entered on registration? For me it is a big problem, that I dont have rakeback on your site.

We regret to inform you that you will not be able to change your bonus code, as you registered through an Affiliate. We at Bodog have nothing to do with what promotions an affiliate as to offer.

Is there possibility to close or delete old account and create new
account, it would be better option than cashout and leave the site?

Please note that you are only allowed to have one active Bodog account at any given time. All and any other duplicate accounts will be disable and you will be referred back to your original account.

Yes I know that I may have only one account at any time, thats why communicate with support and I suggest following:

1step: I cashout my funds
2step: Bodog will close or delete my current account
3step: I make new account
4step: I deposit my funds to new account and keep playing on Bodog

How does this plan sound?

eks vaatab.. mis saab..

EDIT niihh.. kirjavahetus käib edasi:

We are kindly asking that you submit an email, explaining why you would like to open a new account.

Quite simple, when I found Bodog Poker site and registered there, I used idleminer.com affiliate link, this does not get me any rakeback offer. On that time I did not know how important is the rakeback on long term. One pokerforum in my home country (Estonia), where I participate, offers quite good bonuses and reakeback for Bodog Poker, so I would like to use their affiliate link.

Until I dont have rakeback on Bodog, every day I play is potential money loss for me. If I can't change affiliate or make new account on Bodog I have to do new account on some other pokersite, iPoker or Tower Poker or PartyPoker etc. I really would prefer to play in Bodog, I like your software and table layout style, but long term rakeback loss makes a demand for me.

EDIT2: no ikka päris tihe kirjavahetus käib:

We understand that many Poker Rooms offer a 'rakeback' program. Bodog does not offer rakeback, as we have chosen to reinvest our Poker revenue in the form of large tournament overlays and up-front Sign Up and Refer-a-Friend bonuses with the lowest playthrough requirements of any site.



From a business standpoint, we want to ensure that players, such as yourself, see value in playing at Bodog Poker, and realize the difference in game play that occurs on sites where everyone is grinding out their rakeback dollars. We will continue to invest in software upgrades, customer service, and mass marketing in order to provide the game choice, support, and soft competition (fish) that will make your experience at Bodog more profitable.

Yes, I understand that Bodog do not offer rakeback, that is OK.
But on your business standpoint and my on satisfaction, it would be reasonable effort for you to help me change the affiliate (even if I have to recreate my bodog account for that), because we both want me to play on Bodog Poker and as on the first e-mail you stated that for you it does not matter what 3rd party affiliate I use and what promotions they offer. But for me it is important.

For me there are few options:
a) Playing poker on Bodog which is very good site with very good software and offers.
b) Playing poker on Bodog which is very good site with very good software and offers and get rakeback from my own affiliate.
c) Playing poker on other site that isn't so good as Bodog, but I get rakeback from my own affiliate.

I would really prefer option B, playing on Bodog and changing affiliate at my choice.

If Bodog has some contracts or agreements with affiliates where Bodog states that he don't let players recreate accounts or change affiliate codes or what ever, then say it, then I understand that there is no other option for me and I do not bother your support anymore.

Bodog does not facilitate or condone Rakeback activity. Any affiliate offering such a service does so entirely on their own and without our assistance. You will need to contact the affiliate with whom you have the agreement if you have any questions regarding their offer.

We are happy to have you as a customer, however a player is only allowed to have one active Bodog account.

OK, lets drop that affiliate topic, it does not concern you.

My goal is to change bonus code on my current account or recreate my account entirely.

What are the options you offer to me for achieving this goal?

Please be advised that we are not able to change the bonus code that was used. Since this was done through an affiliate all changes will have to be made by that affiliate.

You are only allowed to have one active Bodog account at any given time. If any other account are opened they will be disabled and referred back to your original account.

> You are only allowed to have one active Bodog account at any given time. If any other account are opened they will be disabled and referred
> back to your original account.

I dont want to have several accounts. If you could close or delete my current account after cashout and after that I would create new account, then I would not have more than one active account at any given time.

We do understand your request; however you are only allowed one Bodog account at any given time. In the event that another account is opened, it will be disable and you will be reverted to your original account.

OK, I'll put it this way:

is it possible me to request from you that you will delete my current account? Not close or disable, but delete?

Please note that we are only allowed to disable a clients account if it is requested however, deleting an account in its entirety will not be an available option. You opened your Bodog account as of March 01, 2009 and will be associated with the Bonus code assigned to your account 2917788.

Well, that's a shame, I afraid that then I have left only option C

a) Playing poker on Bodog which is very good site with very good software and offers.
b) Playing poker on Bodog which is very good site with very good software and offers and get rakeback from my own affiliate.
c) Playing poker on other site that isn't so good as Bodog, but I get rakeback from my own affiliate.

Thank you for your time.

jep.. saaga läbi.. nad ei nõustund kuidagi ühelgi legaalsel teel mu bonus codet muutma:-/

[Rage]

Re: Rage @ Triobet/FullTilt/Bodog

mhm... see kuu tundub hea tulevat.. olen FTPs saanud stabiilse tightassi stiili kätte ja suudan hoida seda.. grindin hetkel ironmani challenges Gold taset lahti, sealt saan 75 taala boonust + medaleid mille eest hiljem saab kas VPP'sid või muud.. voluum on hea, see kuu mingi 27000 kätt mängitud... depo boonus on lõpuni vabastatud.. 511taala kandsin sisse, sama palju juurde saadud... vahepeal sain pronks taseme eest 25 taala, siis mingi 100 taala boonuse ka saanud + rakeback.. BR on ~1500 taala.. kui 2000 saab täis.. liigun NL50sse..

Bodogit olen vähem mänginud see kuu vähem kuna FTPs boonuseid taga ajanud.. seal BR kuskil 1000 taala juures, kui seal 1500 peale saan siis teen seal shotid NL50sse