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  • timz0333
    Pokkeritark
    • Mar 2009
    • 6322

    #196
    Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

    Algselt postitas juuretis Vaata postitust
    Tohib küsida selle Q4s käe kohta. On FD double barreldamine WP sellise fishi vastu ? Turnis üsna olematu FE ja puha ju
    Ma arvan, et mingit Fe see J annab isegi. Madalamat Kui J ei barreldaks enamasti.

    Riveris tundub, et saan valubettida Qx ja obv flush. Liskas Kui flushi hitin tahan, et pank oleks võimalikult suur.

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    • k2snakalle
      Pokkerihai
      • Dec 2008
      • 2545

      #197
      Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

      eh see AA käsi, minu arust kui sa pead vastast piisavalt agresiivseks, et turnis uuesti check-calli peale minna, siis riveril küll foldida ei saa. Statsid näitavad, et PF on agro, aga postflop jällegi mitte (Afq tuleks siin kasuks). Betiks ise turni for value.

      AA 3bet käsi, kus sa seda reg-i näed? Hõõruks käsi kokku ja läheks bustolandi. Löö ta raise range stovesse ja enam sa sellist kätt siia ei postita :)

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      • timz0333
        Pokkeritark
        • Mar 2009
        • 6322

        #198
        Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

        Algselt postitas k2snakalle Vaata postitust
        eh see AA käsi, minu arust kui sa pead vastast piisavalt agresiivseks, et turnis uuesti check-calli peale minna, siis riveril küll foldida ei saa. Statsid näitavad, et PF on agro, aga postflop jällegi mitte (Afq tuleks siin kasuks). Betiks ise turni for value.

        Oligi turnil kiõrge agr freq, sams river oli pm olematu :/

        AA 3bet käsi, kus sa seda reg-i näed? Hõõruks käsi kokku ja läheks bustolandi. Löö ta raise range stovesse ja enam sa sellist kätt siia ei postita :)
        Co on reg ja üsna okei reg. pre statid ei näita siin midagi kuna väga palju on coldcallimist sest 4 venda pidevalt potis ja sellest lähebki vpip/pfr vahe suuremaks.

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        • ivar866
          Grinder
          • Oct 2012
          • 776

          #199
          Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

          A3 käes paneks riveris tavaliselt väiksemalt arvestades turni actionit, ehk targemad teavad

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          • timz0333
            Pokkeritark
            • Mar 2009
            • 6322

            #200
            Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

            Päris magusad fishid olid vahepeal võtta aga plaanid lähevad vett vedama liiga tihti.

            Suurim pot seni NL50 seega väärib postitamist.

            Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 2479407
            DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

            Hero (BB): $61.11 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 8009
            BTN/SB: $110.26 - VPIP: 67, PFR: 36, 3B: 13, AF: 1.6, Hands: 42

            Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with A A
            BTN/SB raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $6, BTN/SB calls $3.75

            Flop: ($12.00) 3 7 K (2 players)
            Hero bets $8.00, BTN/SB raises to $104.26, Hero calls $47.11 all in

            Turn: ($122.22) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

            River: ($122.22) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

            Final Pot: $122.22
            Hero shows A A
            BTN/SB shows K 9
            BTN/SB wins $49.15
            Hero wins $119.22

            Plaan oli hea aga lihtsalt kõige halvem river, sest nüüd biidin suht väheseid käsi.

            Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2479409
            DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

            UTG: $65.50 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 102
            MP: $61.41 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 2.8, Hands: 421
            CO: $40.06 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 21, 3B: 4, AF: 1.4, Hands: 80
            BTN: $49.69 - VPIP: 52, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 69
            Hero (SB): $68.63 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 8009
            BB: $63.71 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 63

            Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 8 K
            2 folds, CO raises to $1.25, BTN calls $1.25, Hero calls $1, 1 fold

            Flop: ($4.25) 5 Q J (3 players)
            Hero checks, CO bets $2.13, BTN calls $2.13, Hero calls $2.13

            Turn: ($10.64) J (3 players)
            Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

            River: ($10.64) 4 (3 players)
            Hero bets $5.58, CO folds, BTN calls $5.58

            Final Pot: $21.80
            Hero shows 8 K
            (Rake: $1.09)

            See on lausa väga hea!

            Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players - View hand 2479411
            DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

            SB: $41.93 - VPIP: 52, PFR: 23, 3B: 0, AF: 3.3, Hands: 31
            BB: $25.00 - VPIP: 39, PFR: 25, 3B: 33, AF: 2.7, Hands: 36
            Hero (BTN): $44.40 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 8009

            Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with A Q
            Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BB calls $1

            Flop: ($3.25) K 9 3 (2 players)
            BB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, BB calls $2

            Turn: ($8.25) J (2 players)
            BB bets $3.92, Hero calls $3.92

            River: ($16.09) 9 (2 players)
            BB bets $17.08, Hero calls $17.08

            Final Pot: $50.25
            BB shows 2 A
            Hero shows A Q
            Hero wins $47.74
            (Rake: $2.51)

            Ja kaotus käsi. Regular kelle kohta note, et DB pole väga tugev. ja eks ma kahtlustasin, et tal TP ja proovisin foldima saada mis obv polnud hea mõte. Samas insta adjustin ja tõmban oma rangest bluffe koomale ja saan raisida lightimalt for value.


            Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 2479413
            DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

            SB: $59.71 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 2.0, Hands: 111
            BB: $52.45 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 2.8, Hands: 421
            CO: $52.05 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 5.7, Hands: 214
            Hero (BTN): $98.34 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 8009

            Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with J A
            1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BB calls $1

            Flop: ($3.25) Q 5 4 (2 players)
            BB bets $2.00, Hero calls $2

            Turn: ($7.25) 7 (2 players)
            BB checks, Hero bets $4.00, BB calls $4

            River: ($15.25) 8 (2 players)
            BB checks, Hero bets $11.37, BB calls $11.37

            Final Pot: $37.99
            BB shows J Q
            Hero shows J A
            BB wins $36.10
            (Rake: $1.89)

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            • muttaja
              Pokkerihai
              • Dec 2010
              • 1965

              #201
              Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

              A3. Üldjuhul, kui lähed bet-foldima, siis soovitan ikka suuremalt panna, kui stäkk lubab ja näed, et callib tihti halvemaga. Mulle tundum loogilisem aga turn barreldada kui ch-raise'ida.

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              • timz0333
                Pokkeritark
                • Mar 2009
                • 6322

                #202
                Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

                Limpd pot oli siis läksin seda teed lootuses, et Ax vastu pot suuremaks saada.


                Games are dead suht

                Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 2479677
                DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

                BB: $55.50 - VPIP: 94, PFR: 78, 3B: 78, AF: 2.0, Hands: 32
                Hero (BTN/SB): $71.81 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 8336

                Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with K J
                Hero raises to $1, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.50

                Flop: ($5.00) T 3 8 (2 players)
                BB bets $7.48, Hero raises to $23, BB calls $15.52

                Turn: ($51.00) A (2 players)
                BB checks, Hero bets $12.11, BB calls $12.11

                River: ($75.22) Q (2 players)
                BB checks, Hero bets $19.56, BB calls $17.89 all in

                Final Pot: $111.00
                BB shows 6 T
                Hero shows K J
                Hero wins $108.00
                (Rake: $3.00)


                Üks korralik cooler ka

                Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 2479679
                DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

                BTN/SB: $99.68 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 11, 3B: 6, AF: 2.8, Hands: 323
                Hero (BB): $58.86 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 8336

                Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with T 8
                Hero raises to $1.50, BTN/SB calls $1

                Flop: ($3.00) J Q 9 (2 players)
                Hero bets $2.25, BTN/SB raises to $7, Hero raises to $17, BTN/SB raises to $37, Hero raises to $57.36, BTN/SB calls $20.36

                Turn: ($117.72) 6 (2 players)

                River: ($117.72) 4 (2 players)

                Final Pot: $117.72
                BTN/SB shows T K
                Hero shows T 8
                BTN/SB wins $114.72
                (Rake: $3.00)
                Last edited by timz0333; 24.04.14, 09:16.

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                • Kakahirmutis
                  🎮🟣 twitch.com/kakahirmutis
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 7079

                  #203
                  Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

                  Teises ei tundu väga +ev vastane statidega järgi , aga kes olen mina rääkima :D

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                  • timz0333
                    Pokkeritark
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 6322

                    #204
                    Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

                    Algselt postitas Kakahirmutis Vaata postitust
                    Teises ei tundu väga +ev vastane statidega järgi , aga kes olen mina rääkima :D
                    Stnd shit, laud lagunes ja tegin passive regiga veits HU ja sain kiire HNR.

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                    • Kakahirmutis
                      🎮🟣 twitch.com/kakahirmutis
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 7079

                      #205
                      Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

                      Algselt postitas timz0333 Vaata postitust
                      Stnd shit, laud lagunes ja tegin passive regiga veits HU ja sain kiire HNR.
                      Tean , mulle meeldib ka :D

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                      • timz0333
                        Pokkeritark
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 6322

                        #206
                        Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

                        Praegu on küll eriti lill pokekrit mängida. Olen saavutanud Nl50 comfort tsooni ja ma ei näe küll, et keegi mind seal takistaks.

                        Tegin "missklicki" lootes vastaselt max value saada kui tal käsi.


                        Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2479975
                        DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

                        BTN: $49.77 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 6
                        SB: $50.64 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 2.4, Hands: 861
                        BB: $61.36 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 13, 3B: 3, AF: 3.8, Hands: 253
                        UTG: $83.35 - VPIP: 34, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 1.5, Hands: 167
                        Hero (MP): $81.57 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 4, AF: 2.4, Hands: 9134
                        CO: $193.97 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 5, 3B: 1, AF: 0.8, Hands: 267

                        Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with K K
                        1 fold, Hero raises to $15, 1 fold, BTN calls $15, 2 folds

                        Flop: ($30.75) A 6 K (2 players)
                        Hero bets $13.86, BTN raises to $34.77, Hero calls $20.91

                        Turn: ($100.29) 4 (2 players)

                        River: ($100.29) J (2 players)

                        Final Pot: $100.29
                        BTN shows 6 A
                        Hero shows K K
                        Hero wins $97.29
                        (Rake: $3.00)

                        Just mõni käsi ennem kunne sain sellsie mis soodustas seda KK-d :D

                        Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players - View hand 2479977
                        DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

                        BTN: $31.05 - VPIP: 55, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 1.1, Hands: 38
                        SB: $24.50 - VPIP: 74, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0.7, Hands: 27
                        Hero (BB): $64.76 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 4, AF: 2.4, Hands: 9134

                        Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 3 2
                        BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

                        Flop: ($1.50) A 4 5 (3 players)
                        SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, SB folds

                        Turn: ($4.50) 8 (2 players)
                        Hero bets $3.71, BTN calls $3.71

                        River: ($11.92) 5 (2 players)
                        Hero bets $9.83, BTN raises to $25.34, Hero calls $15.51

                        Final Pot: $62.60
                        BTN shows 5 A
                        Hero shows 3 2
                        BTN wins $59.60
                        (Rake: $3.00)

                        Ja siis sessi lõpus väsimusest tingitud retarded bet size turnil :S

                        Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2479978
                        DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

                        SB: $41.10 - VPIP: 61, PFR: 11, 3B: 11, AF: 1.4, Hands: 28
                        BB: $90.21 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 2.4, Hands: 861
                        UTG: $24.42 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 13, 3B: 3, AF: 3.8, Hands: 253
                        CO: $57.88 - VPIP: 34, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 1.5, Hands: 167
                        Hero (BTN): $134.58 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 4, AF: 2.4, Hands: 9134

                        Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with T T
                        1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold, CO calls $1.50

                        Flop: ($6.50) 5 3 7 (3 players)
                        SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $4.88, SB calls $4.88, CO calls $4.88

                        Turn: ($21.14) K (3 players)
                        SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $15.07, SB folds, CO folds

                        Final Pot: $21.14
                        Hero shows T T
                        Hero wins $20.09
                        (Rake: $1.05)

                        Pole miljoneid plussis aga väga hea tunne on grindides ja ei jõua NL100 ära oodata

                        edit: parandatud KK käes kommentaar, et mitte tekitada segadust uutes mängijates
                        Last edited by timz0333; 25.04.14, 15:53. Põhjus: edit: parandatud KK käes kommentaar, et mitte tekitada segadust uutes mängijates

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                        • Majandaja
                          Pokkerihai
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 2133

                          #207
                          Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

                          Pole miljoneid plussis aga väga hea tunne on grindides ja ei jõua NL100 ära oodata

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                          • timz0333
                            Pokkeritark
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 6322

                            #208
                            Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

                            Eile tegin siis õhtul pika sessi ja lõpetasin kuskil kella ühe aeg. Algus oli väga ilus ja tunne oli fine. Siis saab lauda üks väga hea regular ja fishid olid üldse otsa saanud ning jäin kahes lauas regidega rake keerutama. Lõpptulemus oli aga see, et see agro reg jooksis kõigele lisaks väga hästi ja ownis mind vist pea igas poti. Aga pole hullu õpime.
                            Ei tea miks üldse oli vaja teda torkima minna aga kuna nii agro siis valisin käsi mida peaks olema postflop lihtne mängida. Käed nähtavalt strati teemas.
                            Sain korraks uuesti plussi pärast esimest tohlakat aga reg ei jätnud järgi ja nüpeldas edasi. Nagu sellest vähe siis ka kõige kehvemad regularid hittisid nagu jumalad ja mina pidin ainult õhuga c-bettima. Midagi poistiivset oli ka, sai kirja uus suurim pot ja see käsi tõi siis sessi plusspoolele korraks.


                            Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2480607
                            DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

                            BTN: $81.36 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 2.7, Hands: 1430
                            Hero (SB): $54.50 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 2.4, Hands: 9974
                            BB: $139.14 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 21, 3B: 15, AF: 1.0, Hands: 271
                            UTG: $55.00 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 3.9, Hands: 190
                            MP: $40.53 - VPIP: 49, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 1.4, Hands: 70
                            CO: $141.01 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 10, AF: 14.3, Hands: 374

                            Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with K K
                            UTG raises to $1.25, MP calls $1.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6, BB calls $5.50, UTG calls $4.75, MP calls $4.75

                            Flop: ($24.00) 3 T 5 (4 players)
                            Hero bets $13.00, BB calls $13, UTG raises to $49, MP folds, Hero calls $35.50 all in, BB folds

                            Turn: ($134.00) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

                            River: ($134.00) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

                            Final Pot: $134.00
                            Hero shows K K
                            UTG shows 6 6
                            Hero wins $131.00
                            (Rake: $3.00)

                            Rämeda fishi vastu ei oska foldida :S tagant järgi vaadates nii lihtne fold :/

                            Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 2480608
                            DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

                            UTG: $87.11 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 6, 3B: 3, AF: 1.9, Hands: 116
                            UTG+1: $47.44 - VPIP: 42, PFR: 1, 3B: 0, AF: 1.6, Hands: 78
                            UTG+2: $48.00 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 2.7, Hands: 1430
                            Hero (MP1): $47.91 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 2.4, Hands: 9974
                            MP2: $21.61 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 202
                            CO: $19.90 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 7.5, Hands: 92
                            BTN: $67.91 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 8, 3B: 8, AF: 1.2, Hands: 176
                            SB: $78.62 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 5, 3B: 11, AF: 1.0, Hands: 42
                            BB: $50.93 - VPIP: 13, PFR: 4, 3B: 3, AF: 13.0, Hands: 165
                            Player10: $49.99 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 11, 3B: 1, AF: 3.4, Hands: 305

                            Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP1 with Q K
                            UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 6 folds, UTG+1 raises to $5.50, Hero calls $2.50

                            Flop: ($12.25) Q 6 2 (2 players)
                            UTG+1 bets $3.06, Hero calls $3.06

                            Turn: ($18.37) A (2 players)
                            UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

                            River: ($18.37) 5 (2 players)
                            UTG+1 bets $4.36, Hero calls $4.36

                            Final Pot: $27.09
                            UTG+1 shows A A
                            Hero shows Q K
                            UTG+1 wins $25.74
                            (Rake: $1.35)

                            Feil barrel vs reg. Tõnäoliselt reppisin seda kätt mis tal endal oli :)

                            Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2480609
                            DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

                            UTG: $75.29 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 2.7, Hands: 1430
                            Hero (MP): $142.50 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 2.4, Hands: 9974
                            CO: $40.72 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 21, 3B: 15, AF: 1.0, Hands: 271
                            BTN: $45.50 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 3.9, Hands: 190
                            SB: $154.14 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 10, 3B: 3, AF: 1.3, Hands: 81
                            BB: $141.26 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 10, AF: 14.3, Hands: 374

                            Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with Q K
                            1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

                            Flop: ($3.75) 4 7 J (2 players)
                            Hero bets $2.31, BTN calls $2.31

                            Turn: ($8.37) A (2 players)
                            Hero bets $5.70, BTN raises to $11.40, Hero folds

                            Final Pot: $19.77
                            BTN wins $18.79
                            (Rake: $0.98)


                            Täna natuke maaelu nautima ja siis tagasi pulti.

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                            • k2snakalle
                              Pokkerihai
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 2545

                              #209
                              Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

                              KQ käsi fishi vastu, miks arvad et see niii lihtne fold nüüd on? 1 kord 6-st oled seal good ja on kasumlik callida. Kui sul just mingit betsize riidi ta kohta pole.

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                              • timz0333
                                Pokkeritark
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 6322

                                #210
                                Re: timz õpib grindima. Nl16-25 6 max

                                Algselt postitas k2snakalle Vaata postitust
                                KQ käsi fishi vastu, miks arvad et see niii lihtne fold nüüd on? 1 kord 6-st oled seal good ja on kasumlik callida. Kui sul just mingit betsize riidi ta kohta pole.
                                Natukene agresiivsema vastu ehk jah. Nii passive overall strateegiaga fish siis limprerais ja turn ck + river bet pole väga bluffy. Hind jah hea ja sellep ongi odavam callida. Ilmselt sul õigus, et sellisele betsizele ei pea foldima ilma readita.

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