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  • atsetoon
    Joomas õlut Atsetooniga
    • May 2009
    • 1105

    #196
    Re: feelit micro multiGrind - $150 to $10k / run half maraton uphill

    elus w? neerud alles?

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    • feelitwell
      Õpihimuline Mängur
      • Mar 2015
      • 328

      #197
      Re: PLO ABC

      Hakkasin Omahat õppima.

      Panin $100 pokerstarsi ja hakkan tavalaudu 6max mängima.

      BR managment selline.

      $2PLO:Grind 25 BI ($50) - 50+10 BI ($150) shot $5PLO
      $5PLO:Grind 35 BI ($150) - 50+10 BI ($300) shot $10PLO
      $10PLO:Grind 30 BI ($300) - 50+10 BI ($600) shot $25PLO
      $25PLO:Grind 35 BI ($900) - 50+10 BI ($1500) shot $50PLO


      Sõber aitab mängust aru saada ja jagab ideid millele peab keskenudma rohkem ning ülidises mõttes kuidas läheneda.


      1) Game Selection - Ehk hakkan kõige madalamalt seda harjutama seni kuni see on part of my overall game and strategy.
      2) Strategy - Keskendun materjalile ja tegelen küsimustega mis 20% aja panustamisega toob 80% tulu
      Ehk break downin mängu täitsa algusest ja keskendun sellele, et PF game on nii solid, et seal viga sisse ei lase, kuna sellest oleneb kõik mis juhtub postflop.
      3) Mental game - sellega olen tegelenud vahet pidamata terve see aasta, ning usun, et olen sina peale sellega. Muidugi jätkan ikka.
      4) BR managment - Kuni 50PLO kasutan ülaltoodud skeemi ning edasi vast ikka 100BIga

      * Volume - Grindida keskmiselt 4h päevas, kuna see ei sisalda warm upi ja cool downi ning 1h õppimist mis tuleb kokku umbes 6 tundi siis kõik aeg mis lauas veedan peale 4h on hea boonus.
      * Goals - Tahan oma seatud BR managmendida jõuda PLO50 ja arvan, et mul kulub selleks 100k+ kätt, ehk see on mu goal.
      * Off tables study - Iga nelja tunni peale mis mängin õppin tunni.


      Kellgil miskit head infot või mõtteid jagada PLO koha pealt?
      Last edited by feelitwell; 17.12.15, 10:50.

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      • Confidence
        FPP Pro
        • Mar 2015
        • 200

        #198
        Re: PLO ABC

        "Who bets first, wins."

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        • gamblingFTW
          Vana Tegija
          • Aug 2012
          • 1122

          #199
          Re: PLO ABC

          "Who bets last, wins!"

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          • feelitwell
            Õpihimuline Mängur
            • Mar 2015
            • 328

            #200
            Re: PLO ABC

            EHk siis betime, et võita. Sounds like a sound poker logic.

            HH import test

            kui ef stakc oleks 100bb olnud siis ma oleks callinud pre, kuna aga btn 3betis siis saan piisavalt raha sisse et tema vastu flopis kohe jamida

            Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02

            BTN: $1.20
            Hero (SB): $2.03
            BB: $2.38
            UTG: $5.48
            MP: $2.69
            CO: $9.65

            Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with A 2 A K
            2 folds, CO raises to $0.04, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.51, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.36

            Flop: ($1.08) Q 4 A (2 players)
            Hero bets $0.74, BTN calls $0.69 all in

            Turn: ($2.46) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

            River: ($2.46) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

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            • Confidence
              FPP Pro
              • Mar 2015
              • 200

              #201
              Re: PLO ABC

              Mkm, see kes enne betib ja vastase equity välja foldib, võidab.

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              • gamblingFTW
                Vana Tegija
                • Aug 2012
                • 1122

                #202
                Re: PLO ABC

                Algselt postitas Confidence Vaata postitust
                Mkm, see kes enne betib ja vastase equity välja foldib, võidab.
                See, kes viimasena betib, betib fold equityt ju :)

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                • feelitwell
                  Õpihimuline Mängur
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 328

                  #203
                  Re: PLO ABC

                  nice hand

                  Poker Stars $2.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

                  BTN: $7.74 - VPIP: 62, PFR: 38, 3B: 0, AF: 1.2, Hands: 26
                  SB: $2.98 - VPIP: 75, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 4
                  BB: $2.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 14
                  UTG: $2.22 - VPIP: 57, PFR: 36, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 14
                  MP: $1.57 - VPIP: 43, PFR: 29, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 7
                  Hero (CO): $4.42 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 13, 3B: 2, AF: 1.9, Hands: 2525

                  Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with 7 A A 8
                  UTG raises to $0.04, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN raises to $0.52, SB calls $0.51, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.14, BTN calls $1.62, SB calls $1.62

                  Flop: ($6.48) 3 4 9 (3 players)
                  SB bets $0.84, Hero raises to $2.28, BTN calls $2.28

                  Turn: ($11.88) T (3 players)

                  River: ($11.88) 3 (3 players)

                  Final Pot: $11.88
                  BTN shows T J J K
                  SB shows Q K T Q
                  Hero shows 7 A A 8
                  Hero wins $8.70
                  (Rake: $0.30)

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                  • feelitwell
                    Õpihimuline Mängur
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 328

                    #204
                    Re: PLO ABC

                    Päris deep ja ei osanud aimata mis mu equitu võiks olla vs set / nut fd, mõtlesin foldida...

                    Poker Stars $2.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

                    BTN: $3.98 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 6
                    SB: $6.10 - VPIP: 64, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 11
                    BB: $2.99 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 25, 3B: 33, AF: 0.0, Hands: 4
                    UTG: $1.59 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 4
                    Hero (MP): $3.35 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 13, 3B: 2, AF: 2.0, Hands: 2661
                    CO: $3.43 - VPIP: 40, PFR: 14, 3B: 15, AF: 3.0, Hands: 35

                    Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with 8 9 T J
                    1 fold, Hero raises to $0.07, CO calls $0.07, BTN calls $0.07, SB calls $0.06, BB raises to $0.14, Hero calls $0.07, CO calls $0.07, BTN calls $0.07, SB calls $0.07

                    Flop: ($0.70) 4 K Q (5 players)
                    SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.68, SB raises to $1.36, BB folds, Hero raises to $3.21, CO folds, BTN raises to $3.84, SB calls $2.48

                    Turn: ($11.59) 6 (3 players)

                    River: ($11.59) 5 (3 players)

                    Final Pot: $11.59
                    BTN shows J K 3 K
                    SB shows Q K A 4
                    Hero shows 8 9 T J
                    Hero wins $10.03
                    (Rake: $0.30)

                    Ranged mis määrasin vastastele näitavad selliseid numbreid - mis PLO asjatundjad oskavad rääkida flopi decisioni kohta?
                    board: KhQh4s
                    Hand Equity Wins Ties
                    JsT9h8h 25.02% 147,157 5,985
                    Ah5hxx 25.29% 150,544 2,467
                    KKxx 49.69% 295,806 4,650
                    Last edited by feelitwell; 19.12.15, 11:11.

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                    • gamblingFTW
                      Vana Tegija
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 1122

                      #205
                      Re: PLO ABC

                      pole plo asjatundja aga üpriski kindel et see on fold 3way flopis
                      e: Isegi 4way, niiet päris tihti sul siin, mõlemad drawd kaetud.
                      Last edited by gamblingFTW; 19.12.15, 12:03.

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                      • feelitwell
                        Õpihimuline Mängur
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 328

                        #206
                        Re: PLO ABC

                        2+2 sain viimase käe kohta sellist tagasisidet ühel PLO coachilt:

                        I like 4b pre. This hand is going to play well HU, not so great 5 ways (our fds/flushes are often dead, and we will flop under-wraps). We are deep enough that we have some playability in position post if we get HU with BB. Also, given how wide the other players ranges are and the fact that BB min 3b I think we are going to get 5b less often. Plus, getting 5b isn't that bad, we have 43-44% equity.

                        As played, with an SPR of 4.5 vs wide ranges, I don't think we can fold. We just have too much equity and not enough behind. 3 ways with spr 4.5 we need less than 33.3%, its like 32-32.5%. I think we have it. Flatting is better than raising, I don't think raising accomplishes anything. We can call and fold K/Q/4 turns if the other player flats.


                        Mulle meeldib unless keegi oskab paremat alternatiivi tuua?

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                        • Confidence
                          FPP Pro
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 200

                          #207
                          Re: PLO ABC

                          Tundub läbi mõeldud ja väga hea lahendus nii pre kui postflop. Multiway ei pea muretsema sellepärast ka et unexploitable frequencyd oleksid ning board coverage sest see lasub ka teiste mängijate õlul.
                          Last edited by Confidence; 20.12.15, 18:34.

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                          • feelitwell
                            Õpihimuline Mängur
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 328

                            #208
                            Re: PLO ABC

                            Oleks CO callinud siis ma ka calling, kuna suht rääbis AA ning ei saa palju sisse pre. As played ma usun, et käsi mängis ise välja. Boonus see, et sessi esimene käsi

                            Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

                            BTN: $1.61
                            SB: $2.29
                            Hero (BB): $2.00
                            UTG: $1.61
                            MP: $2.87
                            CO: $1.39

                            Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with A 3 A 8
                            UTG raises to $0.06, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.21, 1 fold, SB calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, CO raises to $1.39 all in, SB calls $1.18, Hero calls $0.49

                            Flop: ($4.23) J 3 T (3 players - 1 is all in)
                            SB checks, Hero bets $0.61 all in, SB calls $0.61

                            Turn: ($5.45) 8 (3 players - 2 are all in)

                            River: ($5.45) 4 (3 players - 2 are all in)

                            Final Pot: $5.45
                            SB shows 4 K 6 K (a pair of Kings)
                            Hero shows A 3 A 8 (two pair, Eights and Threes)
                            CO shows 5 3 6 4 (two pair, Fours and Threes)
                            Hero wins $1.18
                            Hero wins $4.09
                            (Rake: $0.18)

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                            • feelitwell
                              Õpihimuline Mängur
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 328

                              #209
                              Re: PLO ABC

                              Samasse kategooriasse AA aga arvan, et vs 1limper on OK isoda?
                              Aga point sellest, et päris amazing millega minnakse bustoks pidevalt at 2PLO

                              Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

                              BTN: $1.61
                              SB: $2.29
                              Hero (BB): $2.00
                              UTG: $1.61
                              MP: $2.87
                              CO: $1.39

                              Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with A 3 A 8
                              UTG raises to $0.06, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.21, 1 fold, SB calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, CO raises to $1.39 all in, SB calls $1.18, Hero calls $0.49

                              Flop: ($4.23) J 3 T (3 players - 1 is all in)
                              SB checks, Hero bets $0.61 all in, SB calls $0.61

                              Turn: ($5.45) 8 (3 players - 2 are all in)

                              River: ($5.45) 4 (3 players - 2 are all in)

                              Final Pot: $5.45
                              SB shows 4 K 6 K (a pair of Kings)
                              Hero shows A 3 A 8 (two pair, Eights and Threes)
                              CO shows 5 3 6 4 (two pair, Fours and Threes)
                              Hero wins $1.18
                              Hero wins $4.09
                              (Rake: $0.18)
                              Last edited by feelitwell; 21.12.15, 09:02.

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                              • feelitwell
                                Õpihimuline Mängur
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 328

                                #210
                                Re: PLO ABC

                                Kuigi olin reaalselt ees, aga kas keegi foldiks siin flopis? Tahtsin foldida, aga ei foldinud :D
                                Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players -

                                BTN: $1.29
                                SB: $2.17
                                BB: $2.64
                                UTG: $1.63
                                MP: $3.83
                                Hero (CO): $5.56

                                Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with A A 8 8
                                1 fold, MP raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.21, 3 folds, MP calls $0.15

                                Flop: ($0.45) 9 4 8 (2 players)
                                MP checks, Hero bets $0.36, MP raises to $1.17, Hero raises to $3.95, MP calls $2.45 all in

                                Turn: ($7.69) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

                                River: ($7.69) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

                                Final Pot: $7.69
                                MP shows 8 J 9 T (a flush, Ten high)
                                Hero shows A A 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
                                MP wins $7.44
                                (Rake: $0.25)
                                Last edited by feelitwell; 21.12.15, 09:01.

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