Lugesin 2+2'st sellist huvitavat teemat, kus räägitakse pre-flop mängu n.ö reeglitest turniiril. Endale meeldis ja andis mõtlemis ainet natukene. Mõtlesin, et jagan teistega ka siis.
Tekst inglise keeles (ei viitsinud tõlkima hakata, sry):
Seems like a lot of rules have been made into absolutes for mostly preflop online MTT play. Most of them were not considered such absolute rules 5 years ago. It seems like everyone is watching videos and getting coaching and learning to play standard plays so they don't look like a donk. These are often beginners rules to avoid basic mistakes. However, if you know what you are doing, you don't have to always follow them. Also some of the rules don't apply so much to the way the game is played these days. You can also confuse your opponents by not following the rules.
1.Don't open limp.
There are various situations where this can be an effective play. For example, you can limp/call a small pair deep. With around 20xBB, you can LRR AK/AQ, and maybe some other hands and limp/fold some hands. You can sometimes limp the button rather than raising and it can be hard to counter for various reasons. You can limp in early position and see the action before committing more chips. If you use the play in the right situations and follow up well, it can be effective, particularly since opponents may not counter it well.
2. Don't defend your BB.
People are raising 2xBB or close, so you get 4.5-1 immediate pot odds to call, so it is often a profitable play to call even if you are fairly short stacked. They say push or fold with less than so many BBs, but people aren't folding to pushes that much these days online, so sometimes calling is the better play.
3. Don't limp behind with less than so many BBs.
It is obviously better than folding to limp behind on the button and play a multiway pot in position against players with marginal or junk hands who often are donks. Sometimes raising or pushing is a better option.
4. Push rather than open raise with less than so many BBs.
Good general rules, but the number of BBs keeps increasing. It is not necessarily bad to miniraise with 15xBB, although your it is probably better to just push medium strength hands that don't play well postflop. You can also confuse opponents not used to the older approach.
5. Raise small and don't vary your raise size.
Generally a good rule. People used to have huge bet size tells. However, there is nothing wrong with varying your raise size if you don't give away much information. Also, early in the tournament, you often want to build a pot with a value hand. Larger opens tend to be 3-bet a lot less. Also, there are situations such as BvB either with an open or raising a limp where the large raise is effective for various reasons. Do you always want to just isolate limpers or is it sometimes good to make a raise large enough that you might take the pot preflop.
6. You can't flat a raise with less than so many BBs.
Again, people aren't folding to a push like they used to, but if you flat, they think you have AA.
7. Don't flat 3-bets and 4-bets.
Good rule in the old days, but so many reraises are light now and people give you such good odds to call with small reraises.
8. Almost always cbet half pot.
A good approach in general, but sometimes on a wet board, potting it or overbetting can be a good play. Also, you should probably just give up in a lot of situations. There are lots of ways you can play a hand without cbetting, such as c/r, delayed cbet, call down, etc.
Link siis antud teemale 2+2's: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/87...-play-1042812/
Tekst inglise keeles (ei viitsinud tõlkima hakata, sry):
Seems like a lot of rules have been made into absolutes for mostly preflop online MTT play. Most of them were not considered such absolute rules 5 years ago. It seems like everyone is watching videos and getting coaching and learning to play standard plays so they don't look like a donk. These are often beginners rules to avoid basic mistakes. However, if you know what you are doing, you don't have to always follow them. Also some of the rules don't apply so much to the way the game is played these days. You can also confuse your opponents by not following the rules.
1.Don't open limp.
There are various situations where this can be an effective play. For example, you can limp/call a small pair deep. With around 20xBB, you can LRR AK/AQ, and maybe some other hands and limp/fold some hands. You can sometimes limp the button rather than raising and it can be hard to counter for various reasons. You can limp in early position and see the action before committing more chips. If you use the play in the right situations and follow up well, it can be effective, particularly since opponents may not counter it well.
2. Don't defend your BB.
People are raising 2xBB or close, so you get 4.5-1 immediate pot odds to call, so it is often a profitable play to call even if you are fairly short stacked. They say push or fold with less than so many BBs, but people aren't folding to pushes that much these days online, so sometimes calling is the better play.
3. Don't limp behind with less than so many BBs.
It is obviously better than folding to limp behind on the button and play a multiway pot in position against players with marginal or junk hands who often are donks. Sometimes raising or pushing is a better option.
4. Push rather than open raise with less than so many BBs.
Good general rules, but the number of BBs keeps increasing. It is not necessarily bad to miniraise with 15xBB, although your it is probably better to just push medium strength hands that don't play well postflop. You can also confuse opponents not used to the older approach.
5. Raise small and don't vary your raise size.
Generally a good rule. People used to have huge bet size tells. However, there is nothing wrong with varying your raise size if you don't give away much information. Also, early in the tournament, you often want to build a pot with a value hand. Larger opens tend to be 3-bet a lot less. Also, there are situations such as BvB either with an open or raising a limp where the large raise is effective for various reasons. Do you always want to just isolate limpers or is it sometimes good to make a raise large enough that you might take the pot preflop.
6. You can't flat a raise with less than so many BBs.
Again, people aren't folding to a push like they used to, but if you flat, they think you have AA.
7. Don't flat 3-bets and 4-bets.
Good rule in the old days, but so many reraises are light now and people give you such good odds to call with small reraises.
8. Almost always cbet half pot.
A good approach in general, but sometimes on a wet board, potting it or overbetting can be a good play. Also, you should probably just give up in a lot of situations. There are lots of ways you can play a hand without cbetting, such as c/r, delayed cbet, call down, etc.
Link siis antud teemale 2+2's: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/87...-play-1042812/
Comment