PLO küss

[AstraalKeha]

Üritan endale omahad natuke segemaks teha. Üks käsi mille PF ja flopi mängu kohta ootaks kommentaare. Tean et turnist tegin juba ränga vea ning oleks pidand foldima. Siiski kas flopis miskit teisiti teha teinekord?


PokerStars Game #48335328026: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2010/08/18 21:28:52 EET [2010/08/18 14:28:52 ET]
Table 'Lesya III' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: reddevil628 ($4.25 in chips)
Seat 2: fru prudence ($1.62 in chips)
Seat 4: grrinchas ($1.17 in chips)
Seat 5: HERO ($2.70 in chips)
Seat 6: Bergflo ($1.05 in chips)
Seat 7: magier73 ($4.62 in chips)
Seat 8: holyeights ($6 in chips)
Seat 9: T-ROY4444 ($1.76 in chips)
Bergflo: posts small blind $0.01
magier73: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [As Kd Qc 9c]
holyeights: calls $0.02
T-ROY4444: calls $0.02
reddevil628: calls $0.02
fru prudence: folds
grrinchas: calls $0.02
HERO: raises $0.08 to $0.10
Bergflo: folds
magier73: calls $0.08
holyeights: folds
T-ROY4444: folds
reddevil628: calls $0.08
grrinchas: calls $0.08
*** FLOP *** [Jd Td 8h]
magier73: checks
reddevil628: checks
grrinchas: bets $0.43
HERO: raises $0.47 to $0.90
magier73: folds
reddevil628: calls $0.90
grrinchas: raises $0.17 to $1.07 and is all-in
HERO: calls $0.17
reddevil628: calls $0.17
*** TURN *** [Jd Td 8h] [Jc]
reddevil628: bets $3.08 and is all-in
holyeights said, "karate chop"
HERO: calls $1.53 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.55) returned to reddevil628
*** RIVER *** [Jd Td 8h Jc] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
reddevil628: shows [2d Ts Jh 9d] (a full house, Jacks full of Tens)
HERO: shows [As Kd Qc 9c] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
reddevil628 collected $2.92 from side pot
grrinchas: shows [9s Qs Qh Qd] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
reddevil628 collected $3.48 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.72 Main pot $3.48. Side pot $2.92. | Rake $0.32
Board [Jd Td 8h Jc 6h]
Seat 1: reddevil628 showed [2d Ts Jh 9d] and won ($6.40) with a full house, Jacks full of Tens
Seat 2: fru prudence folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: grrinchas showed [9s Qs Qh Qd] and lost with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 5: HERO (button) showed [As Kd Qc 9c] and lost with a straight, Eight to Queen

[nomerlot]

Re: PLO küss

FYP

$0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
PokerStars
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($6)
UTG+1 ($1.76)
MP1 ($4.25)
MP2 ($1.62)
CO ($1.17)
Hero ($2.70)
SB ($1.05)
BB ($4.62)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 8 players) Hero is BTN A K Q 9
UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, 1 fold, BB calls $0.08, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.08, CO calls $0.08

Flop: J 10 8 ($0.45, 4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, CO bets $0.43, Hero raises to $0.90, BB folds, MP1 calls $0.90, CO goes all-in $1.07, Hero calls $0.17, MP1 calls $0.17

Turn: J ($3.66, 3 players, 1 all-in)
MP1 goes all-in $3.08, UTG says "karate chop", Hero goes all-in $1.53

River: 6 ($8.27, 3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $8.27
MP1 shows a full house, Jacks full of Tens
2 10 J 9
CO shows a straight, Eight to Queen
9 Q Q Q
Hero shows a straight, Eight to Queen
A K Q 9

MP1 wins $7.95 (net +$3.70)

CO lost $1.17
Hero lost $2.70
BB lost $0.10
UTG lost $0.02
UTG+1 lost $0.02

[hotcocacola]

Re: PLO küss

1. Converdi handhistory
2. preflop fold

[kuco]

Re: PLO küss

Siiski kas flopis miskit teisiti teha teinekord?

Hero raises to $0.90

Minraise on seal minu arvates kõige halvem liigutus.
Pot it!

[tolmuahv]

Re: PLO küss

Erinevalt HCC-st, ma buttonil küll seda pf maha ei paneks.

Flopil potsize raise jah. See ei jäta enam ruumi ka turnil foldida ka sellise turnikaarti puhul. Teeks mängu üsna lihtsaks Hero jaoks.

[hotcocacola]

Re: PLO küss

no FR plo....ei teagi kas potiks btnilt sellega, ok see selleks.
aga suurim viga obv flopil min raise.
Pigem calli järgi ja safe turni puhul saad ilusti nuppe panna

[EGERT]

Re: PLO küss

Pot pre. Flopist tõsta pot ja looda, et MP1 foldib ja saad CO AI. As played, fold turn.

Kui variatsiooni ei talu, siis calli ja shipi blank turnil. Callides võib muidugi see sama MP1 c/r teha ja siis siin oleks tulemus parimal juhul viik. Kuigi sellise stäkiga veel paljast rida ei foldiks...

Ainuke käsi, mille vastu halvas seisus oled, on set+fd (40/60) ja siingi on vist oddsid olemas, muude asjade puhul oled ees.

[kalkaan]

Re: PLO küss

Pre tõste täitsa normaalne. Sellise käega pole vaja pot sisse lükata, vaja vastaste arvu veits vähendada.
Flopis pot'i suurune tõste sisse. Liiga palju kehvasid kaarte turnis tulemas, et ise ei tahaks lihtsalt callida - jänes õlut ei joo.
Sellise turni kaardi peale leiaks foldi igal juhul üles. Suht selge, et vastane hittis fulliku ning kaitseb enda nuts'i kõrgema fulliku hittimise vastu ning Hero'l 0 out'i.

[EGERT]

Re: PLO küss

Pre tõste täitsa normaalne. Sellise käega pole vaja pot sisse lükata, vaja vastaste arvu veits vähendada.

WTF? Põhimõtteliselt sa soovitad siis OP'l juba preflopi tõste suurusega vastasele oma käe ära näidata? Ja kas mitte väiksem tõste ei meelita rohkem tegelasi potti "oddsi" tõttu?

Sellise turni kaardi peale leiaks foldi igal juhul üles. Suht selge, et vastane hittis fulliku ning kaitseb enda nuts'i kõrgema fulliku hittimise vastu ning Hero'l 0 out'i.

Kui turn oleks HU, siis mis?