[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[Mrt1989]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

weak AAxx tuleb ikka HU saada.

[muttaja]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

Eino, ühe jooksu hittisin riverisse :P aga muidu selline vastik-vastik-vastik jooks

Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $461.73 (115.4 bb)
BB: $136.81 (34.2 bb)
Hero (UTG): $416.65 (104.2 bb)
MP: $232.02 (58 bb)
CO: $504.03 (126 bb)
BTN: $430.65 (107.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K K
Hero calls $4, MP raises to $14.12, CO calls $14.12, BTN calls $14.12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $80, 2 folds, BTN calls $65.88

Flop: ($194.24) J 8 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $64, BTN raises to $350.65 and is all-in, Hero calls $272.65 and is all-in

Turn: ($867.54) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($867.54) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $867.54 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J 8 7 8 5
Hero showed K K and won $432.37 ($15.72 net)
BTN showed J J and won $432.37 ($15.72 net)

[muttaja]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

Ei tule käed koju. Ise nagu suurt ei vusserda, aga...

1.

Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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SB: $406 (101.5 bb)
BB: $616.20 (154.1 bb)
UTG+1: $404.65 (101.2 bb)
UTG+2: $636.03 (159 bb)
MP1: $116.02 (29 bb)
Hero (MP2): $400 (100 bb)
MP3: $832.37 (208.1 bb)
CO: $539.54 (134.9 bb)
BTN: $400 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T A
UTG+1 raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $12, 5 folds

Flop: ($30) J Q 3 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($70) K (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $50, Hero raises to $148, UTG+1 calls $98

River: ($366) 2 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $60, Hero calls $60

Results: $486 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J Q 3 K 2
UTG+1 showed 6 A and won $483.20 ($243.20 net)
Hero mucked T A and lost (-$240 net)

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2. Eks ma kaalusin ikka riveril shovemist ka

Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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SB: $631.78 (105.3 bb)
BB: $600 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $639.20 (106.5 bb)
BTN: $600 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T T
Hero raises to $15, BTN folds, SB raises to $54, BB folds, Hero calls $39

Flop: ($114) T K 2 (2 players)
SB bets $60, Hero calls $60

Turn: ($234) Q (2 players)
SB bets $120, Hero calls $120

River: ($474) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Results: $474 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: T K 2 Q 5
SB showed A J and won $472.50 ($238.50 net)
Hero mucked T T and lost (-$234 net)

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3.

Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $600 (100 bb)
BB: $659.32 (109.9 bb)
MP: $856.70 (142.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $780.20 (130 bb)
BTN: $600 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3 A
MP folds, Hero raises to $15, 2 folds, BB calls $9

Flop: ($33) A 6 A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $24, BB calls $24

Turn: ($81) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $60, BB calls $60

River: ($201) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Results: $201 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A 6 A 9 7
BB showed 2 3 and won $198.20 ($99.20 net)
Hero mucked 3 A and lost (-$99 net)

[Owner85]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

1 käsi kuida sa oleks mänginud kui turn oleks olnud K

[muttaja]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

1 käsi kuida sa oleks mänginud kui turn oleks olnud K

Kui sitt regular pole, siis suure tõenäosusega foldinud

[muttaja]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

vitupea

Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
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SB: $400 (100 bb)
BB: $409.19 (102.3 bb)
UTG+2: $336.93 (84.2 bb)
Hero (MP1): $406 (101.5 bb)
MP2: $49.20 (12.3 bb)
MP3: $419.29 (104.8 bb)
CO: $654.78 (163.7 bb)
BTN: $467.40 (116.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A A
UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $10, 3 folds, BTN calls $10, 2 folds

Flop: ($26) 2 2 J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $14, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($54) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $28, Hero calls $28

River: ($110) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $82, Hero calls $82

Results: $274 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 2 J T 8
Hero mucked A A and lost (-$134 net)
BTN showed Q A and won $271.20 ($137.20 net)

[Pyha Karu]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

Kui sitt regular pole, siis suure tõenäosusega foldinud

AsJx semibluff villainil poleks piisav et turni kh callida? AsQx ja AsKx peaks ju kh samas vahel 3 barrel bluffima seal, sest villaini range on nii tugev sellel boardil?

Kas 10 10 vs A J käes villaini asemel ise valuebetiksid oma rida enamasti?

[muttaja]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

AsJx semibluff villainil poleks piisav et turni kh callida? AsQx ja AsKx peaks ju kh samas vahel 3 barrel bluffima seal, sest villaini range on nii tugev sellel boardil?

Kas 10 10 vs A J käes villaini asemel ise valuebetiksid oma rida enamasti?

1. käes võib tõepoolest ka callida.

2. käes ma poe kindel, tihti ma üldse turni betin. Aga kui betiks, siis vast shoveks riveri küll

[muttaja]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

Iseloomustab tänast jooksu. Terve päeva jagatakse kräppi ja kui saan midagi head, siis...

Poker Stars, $2/$4 Cap No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $219.10 (54.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $433.59 (108.4 bb)
UTG: $204.19 (51 bb)
MP: $98.11 (24.5 bb)
CO: $165.20 (41.3 bb)
BTN: $200.23 (50.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
UTG raises to $8, 3 folds, SB calls $6, Hero raises to $28, UTG folds, SB calls $20

Flop: ($64) 9 4 2 (2 players)
SB bets $52, Hero calls $52

Turn: ($168) K (2 players)
River: ($168) 8 (2 players)

Results: $168 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 9 4 2 K 8
SB showed 4 2 and won $165.20 ($85.20 net)
Hero showed A A and lost (-$80 net)

[muttaja]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

Teine sess õnneks parem ja päevake isegi plussis :).

Ühe regulari vastu jooksin kenasti. Muidu väga ebameeldiv vastane mulle olnud.

1.

Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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Hero (SB): $546.90 (136.7 bb)
BB: $503.39 (125.8 bb)
MP: $811.20 (202.8 bb)
CO: $404 (101 bb)
BTN: $400 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 A
3 folds, Hero raises to $10, BB raises to $24, Hero calls $14

Flop: ($48) 2 7 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $40, BB calls $40

Turn: ($128) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $100, Hero calls $100

River: ($328) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Results: $328 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 7 6 2 J
Hero showed 8 A and won $325.20 ($161.20 net)
BB mucked T 9 and lost (-$164 net)

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2. Vahelduseks AA-ga pre nupud ka sisse

Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $479.31 (119.8 bb)
BB: $688.13 (172 bb)
UTG: $479.82 (120 bb)
MP: $438.51 (109.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $689.90 (172.5 bb)
BTN: $400 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
2 folds, Hero raises to $10, BTN raises to $36, 2 folds, Hero raises to $88, BTN raises to $400 and is all-in, Hero calls $312

Flop: ($806) T T 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($806) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($806) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $806 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T T 6 Q 2
Hero showed A A and won $803.20 ($403.20 net)
BTN showed K A and lost (-$400 net)

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3. Ja siis lõpuks üks magus käsi ka ta vastu

Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $400 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $454.21 (113.6 bb)
MP: $525.43 (131.4 bb)
CO: $400 (100 bb)
BTN: $1,136.49 (284.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A K
2 folds, BTN raises to $8, SB calls $6, Hero raises to $40, BTN calls $32, SB folds

Flop: ($88) 6 A T (2 players)
Hero bets $44, BTN calls $44

Turn: ($176) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $112, BTN calls $112

River: ($400) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $940.49 and is all-in, Hero calls $258.21 and is all-in

Results: $916.42 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 A T Q 2
Hero showed A K and won $913.62 ($459.41 net)
BTN showed J 9 and lost (-$454.21 net)

[Owner85]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

See 3mas käsi,ei saa tema flopi callist aru ja siis miks ta ei chipi turni,ehk oskad loogikat seletada

[k2snakalle]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

Eks neil muttajaga dünaamikat omavahel kindlasti, aga flopi call on seal ilmselt seotud sellega, miks ta üldse J9s PF callib. Mõlemad backdoorid olemas, aga raise does not make sense sellisel flopil. Turni call seepärast, et tal nüüd OE + ega hero 3bet potis väga ei bluffi riverit sellisel laual. Turni raisega muidugi võib saada AK-st lahti (occasionally KQ), samas herol on päris raske ka sellisel laual AK-ga riveril olla. (mille peale villian herot riveril ei pane kui näeb checki. Riveri ch-ca AK-ga on wp) . Mida sa biidid seal kui vastane turni callib ja riveri shoveb??

[muttaja]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

See 3mas käsi,ei saa tema flopi callist aru ja siis miks ta ei chipi turni,ehk oskad loogikat seletada

Pmst jah, et kui juba pre callid sellise käega, siis pead vahel ka säänsel flopil callima. Ega ma üleliia tihti ei barrelda, niiet ta võis eeldada, et kui checkin turni piisavalt tihti, mis annab talle võimaluse käsi kas turnil või riveril maha võtta. Runner-runner annab tegelt mingi equity ka ikka kokku lisaks eelnevale.
Turnil ei saa tõsta, sest pmst sellises situatsioonis puubub ju raise'imise range. Tuleks mastitõmme maha, siis võiks eeldada, et näiteks A6 oleks hea kandidaat shovemiseks. Tugevad lehed ju callivad. Kui sai flopil juba sellise liini peale mindud, siis nadi turni foldida ka.

[muttaja]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

Eks neil muttajaga dünaamikat omavahel kindlasti, aga flopi call on seal ilmselt seotud sellega, miks ta üldse J9s PF callib. Mõlemad backdoorid olemas, aga raise does not make sense sellisel flopil. Turni call seepärast, et tal nüüd OE + ega hero 3bet potis väga ei bluffi riverit sellisel laual. Turni raisega muidugi võib saada AK-st lahti (occasionally KQ), samas herol on päris raske ka sellisel laual AK-ga riveril olla. (mille peale villian herot riveril ei pane kui näeb checki. Riveri ch-ca AK-ga on wp) . Mida sa biidid seal kui vastane turni callib ja riveri shoveb??

Ega riveril mugav tõepoolest pole olla. Biidingi floate ja splitin AK. Antud eksemplar ei näidanud üles just suurt soovi 3bettidele foldida, seega eeldasin, et range on suht lai, ehk floate on piisavalt.

[muttaja]

Re: [NL400-1000] muttaja

Mäh... range oli kenasti paigas. Üks mõttetu liialt agressiivne pärdik, kes viimasel ajal radika otsas kükitab. A küll ta lähiajal suudab jälle enamus raha auku panna ja kolib madalamale.

Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $400 (100 bb)
BB: $402.92 (100.7 bb)
UTG: $1,009.55 (252.4 bb)
MP: $485.20 (121.3 bb)
CO: $446.86 (111.7 bb)
Hero (BTN): $602.55 (150.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
3 folds, Hero raises to $8, SB folds, BB raises to $30, Hero raises to $68, BB calls $38

Flop: ($138) 5 7 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $68, BB calls $68

Turn: ($274) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($274) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $266.92 and is all-in, Hero calls $266.92

Results: $807.84 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 5 7 4 8 6
BB showed Q K and won $402.52 (-$0.40 net)
Hero showed A A and won $402.52 (-$0.40 net)