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  • muttaja
    Pokkerihai
    • Dec 2010
    • 1965

    #781
    Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

    Regular.

    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    CO: $218 (109 bb)
    BTN: $236.80 (118.4 bb)
    SB: $200 (100 bb)
    Hero (BB): $495.68 (247.8 bb)
    MP: $273.20 (136.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J A
    MP folds, CO raises to $5, BTN calls $5, SB folds, Hero raises to $26, CO folds, BTN calls $21

    Flop: ($58) J 2 J (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN bets $25, Hero raises to $64, BTN calls $39

    Turn: ($186) K (2 players)
    Hero bets $405.68 and is all-in, BTN calls $146.80 and is all-in

    River: ($479.60) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: $479.60 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: J 2 J K T
    BTN showed Q A and won $476.80 ($240 net)
    Hero showed J A and lost (-$236.80 net)

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    • muttaja
      Pokkerihai
      • Dec 2010
      • 1965

      #782
      Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

      Lisaks sellele ülalolevale naljale oli jooks muidu ka frustreeriv. Ja eks ma selle peale oskan juba tilti ka minna. Lõpuks siis 1100 miinust. Mõttetu mäng.

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      • muttaja
        Pokkerihai
        • Dec 2010
        • 1965

        #783
        Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

        Eks selles käes olin muidugi ise ka "süüdi", sest kui jooks on ikka sitt, siis ikka parem preflop uhada ja pärast vinguda:

        Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        Hero (BB): $444.76 (222.4 bb)
        UTG: $200 (100 bb)
        MP: $224 (112 bb)
        CO: $311.61 (155.8 bb)
        BTN: $233.20 (116.6 bb)
        SB: $225.13 (112.6 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
        3 folds, BTN raises to $4, SB raises to $14, Hero calls $12, BTN calls $10

        Flop: ($42) 5 4 T (3 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $24, BTN raises to $52, SB folds, Hero calls $28

        Turn: ($146) 3 (2 players)
        Hero checks, BTN bets $44, Hero raises to $378.76 and is all-in, BTN calls $123.20 and is all-in

        River: ($480.40) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

        Results: $480.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
        Final Board: 5 4 T 3 6
        Hero showed K K and lost (-$233.20 net)
        BTN showed 5 5 and won $477.60 ($244.40 net)

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        • muttaja
          Pokkerihai
          • Dec 2010
          • 1965

          #784
          Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

          Sama regualri vastu suht järjest käed:

          1.

          Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          BTN: $68.97 (34.5 bb)
          SB: $213.92 (107 bb)
          Hero (BB): $410.10 (205.1 bb)
          CO: $200 (100 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with Q J
          2 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

          Flop: ($12) 5 Q T (2 players)
          SB bets $9, Hero calls $9

          Turn: ($30) 2 (2 players)
          SB bets $21, Hero calls $21

          River: ($72) 2 (2 players)
          SB bets $53, Hero calls $53

          Results: $178 pot ($1.50 rake)
          Final Board: 5 Q T 2 2
          SB showed K K and won $176.50 ($87.50 net)
          Hero mucked Q J and lost (-$89 net)

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          2.

          Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          CO: $94.88 (47.4 bb)
          BTN: $63.17 (31.6 bb)
          SB: $278.62 (139.3 bb)
          Hero (BB): $351.70 (175.9 bb)
          MP: $216.06 (108 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 J
          3 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

          Flop: ($12) 8 J 7 (2 players)
          SB bets $9, Hero calls $9

          Turn: ($30) 5 (2 players)
          SB bets $20, Hero calls $20

          River: ($70) 5 (2 players)
          SB bets $46, Hero calls $46

          Results: $162 pot ($2.80 rake)
          Final Board: 8 J 7 5 5
          SB showed K K and won $159.20 ($78.20 net)
          Hero mucked 8 J and lost (-$81 net)

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          • muttaja
            Pokkerihai
            • Dec 2010
            • 1965

            #785
            Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

            Lõpetuseks 1 käsi, mille võitsin.

            Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

            BTN: $200 (100 bb)
            SB: $203.30 (101.7 bb)
            BB: $208.04 (104 bb)
            MP: $320.91 (160.5 bb)
            Hero (CO): $286.37 (143.2 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is CO with A Q
            MP folds, Hero raises to $6, BTN raises to $18, 2 folds, Hero calls $12

            Flop: ($39) 2 9 Q (2 players)
            Hero checks, BTN bets $26, Hero calls $26

            Turn: ($91) A (2 players)
            Hero checks, BTN bets $52, Hero raises to $242.37 and is all-in, BTN calls $104 and is all-in

            River: ($403) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

            Results: $403 pot ($2.80 rake)
            Final Board: 2 9 Q A 4
            BTN showed A K and lost (-$200 net)
            Hero showed A Q and won $400.20 ($200.20 net)

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            • kardaanirist
              Pokkerihai
              • Nov 2009
              • 3675

              #786
              Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

              Algselt postitas muttaja Vaata postitust
              Ee... ma räägin bettimisest mitte callimisest.
              ei saa aru. bettisid ju korra ja seda tegid flopil ja siis ei saa sa valuet 4x käest, sest sul on seal ju AT. turn ju c-c ja riveri c/shove ei calli reg seal never ever 4x-ga.

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              • ESTPatrick
                Olümpsi Mägi Aivar
                • Nov 2008
                • 5572

                #787
                Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

                Algselt postitas kardaanirist Vaata postitust
                ei saa aru. bettisid ju korra ja seda tegid flopil ja siis ei saa sa valuet 4x käest, sest sul on seal ju AT. turn ju c-c ja riveri c/shove ei calli reg seal never ever 4x-ga.
                ei kunagi on liiga lõplik. on hullemaid callegi tehtud seal. mõni reks paneb su näiteks Ax peale ja teeb calli, oleneb kui tiltis sess tal parasjagu on olnud, see on väga määrav kui light call tuleb. teoorias ei tohiks callida, kuid see ei käi tihti käsikäes praktikaga

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                • kardaanirist
                  Pokkerihai
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 3675

                  #788
                  Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

                  Algselt postitas ESTPatrick Vaata postitust
                  ei kunagi on liiga lõplik. on hullemaid callegi tehtud seal. mõni reks paneb su näiteks Ax peale ja teeb calli, oleneb kui tiltis sess tal parasjagu on olnud, see on väga määrav kui light call tuleb. teoorias ei tohiks callida, kuid see ei käi tihti käsikäes praktikaga
                  sa ei saa ju mängida selle peale, et "äkki on ta tiltis ja teeb sita calli". river imo kohutavalt mängitud. call >>>>> c/shove. shovega ju ei saavuta mitte kui midagi. jätkuvalt olen veendunud, et 4x ega sitem seal ei calli. Tx-ga on split anyway. Kx foldib. riveri c/f obv ei tule kõne allagi ja check ette on ehk olenevalt vastasest isegi hea, sest mõned bluffhappymad regid kindlasti vahest riveril barreldavad.

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                  • muttaja
                    Pokkerihai
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1965

                    #789
                    Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

                    Ega ma tegelikult eeldagi, et 4x seal tihtilugu callib. Minu loogiga oli see, et kui ma turn juba chekkisin, siis checkin riveri ka, et a.) vastane bluffiks mulle raha või b.) et ta 4x-iga betiks. 4x betib seal alati. Tx läheb eniveis splitti (kui see just õnnetu KT pole). Kui ma ise betin, siis callib vaid 4x ja T. Check-raise tundus rohkem EV+. Õnnetu käsi lihtsalt, nagu täna paljud teisedki.

                    Küsimus ongi ju tegeltkult selles, kas kasulikum on ch-call või ch-raise. Ma ikkagi usun, et pikas perspektiivis maksab 4x ja 55-AA mulle rohkem, kui mina maksan 44-le, KT-le ja KK-le.
                    Last edited by muttaja; 16.10.12, 23:14.

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                    • ESTPatrick
                      Olümpsi Mägi Aivar
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 5572

                      #790
                      Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

                      siin on minu arvates oluliselt rohkem oluline sessi sisene senine madistamine kui ükskõik mis muu põhjus. kui olete suuri potte omavahel ennem mänginud ja oled bluffiga vahele jäänud siis on c/r väga hea. kui on esimene suurem pot ja ka varasemalt midagi meeldejäävat toimunud ei ole siis c/r saab calli ainult cooleritelt ja 4x folde on oluliselt rohkem kui esimeses variandis.

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                      • muttaja
                        Pokkerihai
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 1965

                        #791
                        Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

                        Täna flippisin ka paari käega ära pärast kohutavat jooksu... -2000 tõsiasi

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                        • muttaja
                          Pokkerihai
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 1965

                          #792
                          Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

                          Fišši regi vastu

                          Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                          CO: $224.75 (112.4 bb)
                          BTN: $430.96 (215.5 bb)
                          SB: $313.48 (156.7 bb)
                          Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
                          UTG: $200 (100 bb)
                          MP: $472.61 (236.3 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 A
                          3 folds, BTN raises to $4, SB folds, Hero raises to $16, BTN raises to $30, Hero calls $14

                          Flop: ($61) 7 8 5 (2 players)
                          Hero checks, BTN bets $20.50, Hero raises to $170 and is all-in, BTN calls $149.50

                          Turn: ($401) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                          River: ($401) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                          Results: $401 pot ($2.80 rake)
                          Final Board: 7 8 5 4 K
                          BTN showed 5 4 and won $398.20 ($198.20 net)
                          Hero showed 7 A and lost (-$200 net)

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                          • muttaja
                            Pokkerihai
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1965

                            #793
                            Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

                            Spewwy

                            Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                            BB: $200 (100 bb)
                            UTG: $502.53 (251.3 bb)
                            MP: $289.02 (144.5 bb)
                            Hero (CO): $202 (101 bb)
                            BTN: $233.53 (116.8 bb)
                            SB: $200 (100 bb)

                            Preflop: Hero is CO with A K
                            UTG raises to $6, MP folds, Hero raises to $16, 3 folds, UTG calls $10

                            Flop: ($35) K 5 6 (2 players)
                            UTG checks, Hero bets $20, UTG raises to $48, Hero raises to $186 and is all-in, UTG calls $138

                            Turn: ($407) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                            River: ($407) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                            Results: $407 pot ($2.80 rake)
                            Final Board: K 5 6 9 5
                            UTG showed A 2 and won $404.20 ($202.20 net)
                            Hero showed A K and lost (-$202 net)

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                            • muttaja
                              Pokkerihai
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1965

                              #794
                              Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

                              Üks sessi viimaseid käsi, olin ses lauas end juba lolliks foldinud ja seetõttu tõenäoliselt tahtsingi nupud sisse saada. Loll olen.

                              Poker Stars, $1/$2, $0.40 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
                              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                              Hero (BTN): $437.12 (218.6 bb)
                              SB: $385.98 (193 bb)
                              BB: $541.80 (270.9 bb)
                              MP: $987.24 (493.6 bb)
                              CO: $204.60 (102.3 bb)

                              Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 8
                              MP raises to $7, CO calls $7, Hero calls $7, SB calls $6, BB folds

                              Flop: ($32) 9 A 7 (4 players)
                              SB checks, MP bets $20.86, CO calls $20.86, Hero calls $20.86, SB folds

                              Turn: ($94.58) 2 (3 players)
                              MP checks, CO bets $44, Hero raises to $94, MP folds, CO raises to $176.34 and is all-in, Hero calls $82.34

                              River: ($447.26) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                              Results: $447.26 pot ($2.80 rake)
                              Final Board: 9 A 7 2 9
                              Hero showed 5 8 and lost (-$204.60 net)
                              MP mucked and lost (-$28.26 net)
                              CO showed A Q and won $444.46 ($239.86 net)

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                              • muttaja
                                Pokkerihai
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 1965

                                #795
                                Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

                                Kaks viimast päeva. Vanasti tegin sellistes situatsioonides cashoudi ja halustasin nullist ehk nl25-st, et kogu rolli maha ei mängiks :P



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