[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[ristijeesus]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Natuke arvutusi:

Võrdluseks, kui ma olin suhteliselt tight esimesed 10k käsi maksin 8320 käe kohta $81.34 raket (8320 kätt, kuna PT3 ei saa nii täpselt filtreerida), mis teeb keskmiselt käe kohta $0.0098 ehk 100 käe kohta $0.98 ehk 3.9 bb (1.8 PT/BB) rake ning kui loose maksin keskmiselt käe kohta $0.0163 reiki ehk 100 käe kohta $1.63 ehk 6.5bb (3.25 PT/BB) raket.

Ma loodan, et need numbrid on õiged ja neis ei ole suurt variatsiooni aga võrreldes tight vs loose stiili on rakest kaotatav winrate vahe 2.6bb (1.3PT/BB), mis on juba väga suur vahe.

[HerrJanks]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Tead sa umbes palju sul NL100as vpp'sid per hand tuleb?

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

0,36.

Kuidagi oli su küsimus kahe silma vahele jäänud. Vabandused.

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Kuu sai nüüd selline.




Kokku vaid 68k kätt. Rake maksin ca 4300. Oktoobris pean kindlasti volüümi parandama ning tahaks käpelt ka nl200 mängima hakata.

[HerrJanks]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

overall positiivne, edu edaspidiseks!

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Tänased käed.

1. Polegi vast suurt kommenteerida. Semi-fishi vastu, kes üritas iga kätt võita.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (SB): $131.04 (131 bb)
BB: $52.81 (52.8 bb)
UTG: $108.26 (108.3 bb)
MP: $124.50 (124.5 bb)
CO: $160.99 (161 bb)
BTN: $47 (47 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 3
2 folds, CO raises to $3, BTN folds, Hero calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9) 3 8 5 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $6, Hero raises to $20, BB folds, CO calls $14

Turn: ($49) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $36, CO raises to $137.99 and is all-in, Hero calls $72.04

River: ($265.08) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $265.08 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: 3 8 5 6 J
Hero showed 3 3 and lost (-$131.04 net)
CO showed 9 7 and won $262.93 ($131.89 net)

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2. Suht lamba regulari vastu. Olin teda muidugi eelnevalt tihedalt 3bettinud ka...

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CO: $110.72 (110.7 bb)
BTN: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $176.57 (176.6 bb)
BB: $59.35 (59.4 bb)
MP: $146.80 (146.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A A
2 folds, BTN raises to $2, Hero raises to $9, BB folds, BTN raises to $100 and is all-in, Hero calls $91

Flop: ($201) 2 Q 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($201) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($201) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $201 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: 2 Q 8 6 K
BTN showed 8 8 and won $198.85 ($98.85 net)
Hero showed A A and lost (-$100 net)

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3. Fišši vastu. Vist ainuke käsi, mis kergelt kergelt ära tiltis

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BB: $79 (79 bb)
Hero (SB): $100.91 (100.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 T
Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4) 8 3 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.86, BB calls $2.86

Turn: ($9.72) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6, BB raises to $18, Hero calls $12

River: ($45.72) J (2 players)
BB bets $56.14 and is all-in, Hero calls $56.14

Results: $158 pot ($0.50 rake)
Final Board: 8 3 5 T J
BB showed 9 Q and won $157.50 ($78.50 net)
Hero showed 8 T and lost (-$79 net)

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4. Regulari vastu, kellega erilist ajalugu pole. Käsi ka vähe. Eelnevalt polnud ma lauas midagi teinud ka. Üpris optimistlik call ikka.

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BB: $206.04 (206 bb)
MP: $101 (101 bb)
CO: $139.38 (139.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $100 (100 bb)
SB: $146.76 (146.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 8
MP raises to $3, CO folds, Hero calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) A 5 8 (2 players)
MP bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($17.50) T (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $10, MP calls $10

River: ($37.50) 4 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $26, MP calls $26

Results: $89.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A 5 8 T 4
MP showed A Q and won $86.70 ($42.70 net)
Hero showed 9 8 and lost (-$44 net)

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5. Õnneks 2nd nuts oli hea. Säänne fišš oli, kes üritas palju kavaldada ega tahtnud kudiagi loobuda. Samas mängis kuskil 60% käsi.

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Hero (BB): $120.56 (120.6 bb)
UTG: $132.63 (132.6 bb)
MP: $110.79 (110.8 bb)
CO: $176.76 (176.8 bb)
BTN: $218.62 (218.6 bb)
SB: $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K T
2 folds, CO calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6, CO calls $5

Flop: ($12.50) K K T (2 players)
Hero bets $7.16, CO calls $7.16

Turn: ($26.82) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($26.82) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $17, CO raises to $34, Hero raises to $107.40 and is all-in, CO calls $73.40

Results: $241.62 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: K K T 9 5
Hero showed K T and won $239.47 ($118.91 net)
CO mucked J 5 and lost (-$120.56 net)

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6. Lolli regulari vastu. Turnis tundus parim valik bettimine olevat. Suht napp call vist.

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BTN: $100 (100 bb)
SB: $99 (99 bb)
BB: $81.26 (81.3 bb)
UTG: $103.62 (103.6 bb)
Hero (MP): $140.49 (140.5 bb)
CO: $108.24 (108.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q J
UTG raises to $3, Hero calls $3, CO folds, BTN calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($10.50) K 2 9 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5, BTN calls $5, UTG folds

Turn: ($20.50) J (2 players)
Hero bets $13, BTN raises to $33, Hero calls $20

River: ($86.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $99.49 and is all-in, BTN calls $59 and is all-in

Results: $204.50 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: K 2 9 J 8
BTN showed 9 9 and lost (-$100 net)
Hero showed Q J and won $202.35 ($102.35 net)

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7. Hästi võtsin valuet :). Ehk siis lucky riverit ei tohi jätta kasutamata.

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BTN: $60.50 (60.5 bb)
SB: $80.05 (80.1 bb)
Hero (BB): $132.77 (132.8 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 A
2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3

Flop: ($8) A 5 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.58, SB calls $4.58

Turn: ($17.16) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10

River: ($37.16) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $23, SB calls $23

Results: $83.16 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: A 5 7 8 6
SB mucked Q A and lost (-$41.58 net)
Hero showed 4 A and won $81.66 ($40.08 net)

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Mängisin täna hästi ja sain ka paar buyinni plussi.

Mõned käed ka.

1. Olin paar kätt tagasi just end surnuks bluffinud samas lauas ühe regulari vastu. Too tüüp paistis siuke kahepaikne olevat. Sisetunde pealt callisin. Kuigi tagantjärele ei saa ma aru, mis ta eesmärk oli.

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BTN: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $100 (100 bb)
BB: $99 (99 bb)
UTG: $178.35 (178.4 bb)
MP: $102.50 (102.5 bb)
CO: $221.26 (221.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A Q
UTG folds, MP raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, BB folds, MP calls $7

Flop: ($21) T A 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $12.03, MP calls $12.03

Turn: ($45.06) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $25, MP calls $25

River: ($95.06) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $55.47 and is all-in, Hero calls $52.97 and is all-in

Results: $201 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: T A 6 3 9
Hero showed A Q and won $198.85 ($98.85 net)
MP showed J A and lost (-$100 net)

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2. Mõlemad olid kehvad mängijad.

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SB: $98.78 (98.8 bb)
BB: $222.20 (222.2 bb)
UTG+1: $162.36 (162.4 bb)
UTG+2: $100 (100 bb)
MP1: $100 (100 bb)
MP2: $107.75 (107.8 bb)
MP3: $103.35 (103.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $186.87 (186.9 bb)
BTN: $282.23 (282.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A J
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $3, 3 folds, Hero calls $3, BTN calls $3, SB calls $2.50, BB folds

Flop: ($13) A 6 4 (4 players)
SB bets $3, UTG+2 calls $3, Hero raises to $10, BTN folds, SB calls $7, UTG+2 calls $7

Turn: ($43) 3 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $31, SB calls $31, UTG+2 folds

River: ($105) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Results: $105 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: A 6 4 3 8
SB showed Q T and lost (-$44 net)
Hero showed A J and won $102.85 ($58.85 net)

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Kerge FPS vist, aga makstakse hästi

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Mängisin hästi nagu eilegi. Tasuks ka 7 BI plussi. 2333 käe kohta jäin kolm korda stäkist ilma. Kõik olid preflop allinnid, mul vastavalt KK, QQ ja JJ.

1. halb käsi. Jube napp. Ei tahtnud kaarte näidata ja foldisin =). Oleks pidanud flopil väiksemalt tõstma, et ta riveril ei saaks nii mugavalt nt AA-ga lükata. Jätan tuleviku tarbeks meelde.

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CO: $126.35 (126.4 bb)
BTN: $337.53 (337.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $106.23 (106.2 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $124.93 (124.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q K
MP raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.50, BB folds

Flop: ($7) T 5 J (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4, Hero raises to $14, MP calls $10

Turn: ($35) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $24, MP raises to $107.93 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $83 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: T 5 J 7
Hero mucked Q K and lost (-$41 net)
MP mucked and won $80.85 ($39.85 net)

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2. Ja teine käsi, mis tekitas küsimusi. Ei taha seda siia väga panna, sest eks eestlasi, kes sama limiiti mängib, on ka omajagu. Samas loodan, et keegi mõtleb kaasa ja ütleb ka oma mõtted välja. Regulari vastu obv. Skip flop CB, fold turn oli 10/15. Turni ja riveri agressioon suht standard. Üleüldiselt oli tüüp suht nit, wtsd üpris madal, w$wsf ka pigem alla keskmise, w$sd pigem kõrge.

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CO: $40.17 (40.2 bb)
BTN: $223.09 (223.1 bb)
SB: $121.80 (121.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $140.58 (140.6 bb)
UTG: $32.74 (32.7 bb)
MP: $95.08 (95.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K 9
3 folds, BTN raises to $2, SB folds, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($4.50) 9 J K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($4.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.22, BTN raises to $11, Hero calls $7.78

River: ($26.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $18, BTN raises to $42, Hero ??????????????

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3. Vast oleks rahad lihtsamalt ka sisse saada, aga mul oli vaja täna keerulisi radu käia

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BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $72 (72 bb)
Hero (MP): $104.28 (104.3 bb)
CO: $103.23 (103.2 bb)
BTN: $102.65 (102.7 bb)
SB: $102.07 (102.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J J
UTG folds, Hero raises to $3, CO raises to $9.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $6.50

Flop: ($20.50) 7 J 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $12, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($44.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $27, Hero calls $27

River: ($98.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $54.73, Hero calls $54.73

Results: $207.96 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 7 J 5 7 8
Hero showed J J and won $205.16 ($101.93 net)
CO showed K K and lost (-$103.23 net)

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4. Standaed regular. Tegelikult panin ma ta miski droo peale. Muidugi võis ta ka rea saada, aga... Joppas ka muidugi.

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BB: $112.17 (112.2 bb)
UTG: $42.82 (42.8 bb)
Hero (MP): $100 (100 bb)
CO: $113.90 (113.9 bb)
BTN: $100 (100 bb)
SB: $59.81 (59.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A Q
UTG folds, Hero raises to $3, CO folds, BTN calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 8 A 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.22, Hero raises to $13.58, BTN calls $9.36

Turn: ($34.66) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $20, BTN raises to $83.42 and is all-in, Hero calls $63.42 and is all-in

River: ($201.50) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $201.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 A 6 4 T
Hero showed A Q and won $198.70 ($98.70 net)
BTN showed Q A and lost (-$100 net)

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5. Jälle oli kavaldada vaja.

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BB: $107.46 (107.5 bb)
UTG: $53.33 (53.3 bb)
MP: $85.53 (85.5 bb)
CO: $200.12 (200.1 bb)
Hero (BTN): $182.34 (182.3 bb)
SB: $66.84 (66.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q A
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($5) 4 8 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($5) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $3.58, Hero raises to $11, SB calls $7.42

River: ($27) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $19.33, Hero raises to $169.34 and is all-in, SB calls $34.51 and is all-in

Results: $134.68 pot ($2.15 rake)
Final Board: 4 8 6 2 6
Hero showed Q A and won $132.53 ($65.69 net)
SB showed K K and lost (-$66.84 net)

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6. Kes see eestlane oli, kes mulle siin raha andis:P Peaks ikka riveri tõstetele respekti andma!

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CO: $42.48 (42.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $100 (100 bb)
SB: $151.02 (151 bb)
BB: $93.94 (93.9 bb)
MP: $99.70 (99.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.50) 3 5 J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.58, BB calls $2.58

Turn: ($9.66) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($9.66) K (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero raises to $16, BB calls $12

Results: $41.66 pot ($1.87 rake)
Final Board: 3 5 J 6 K
Hero showed A A and won $39.79 ($19.21 net)
BB mucked 9 J and lost (-$20.58 net)

[Fortune]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Kuidas sa esimese käe foldida said, ma küll matet päris täpselt ei tea, aga imo kui sa seal turni nii suurelt betid(kui sa turni üldse betid) siis sa pead raudselt callima selle shipi sest sa oled nii commited oma betiga. Call on equity põhine ja foldides kaotad lihtsalt rohkm raha. Keegi võiks mu väidet muidugi kinnitada.

[BuildUp]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Fold peaks siiski correct olema, kui panna vastase rangeks TT+ & JT. Selle range vastu on meil 32% equityt turnis. Selleks, aga et callida oleks vaja 39%.

edit: Spewmonkeyl õigus. Call on correct.

[Spewmonkey]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

30.x% ei ole vaja? Meil ei ole $83 callida, vaid $65.

[muttaja]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Eks see ole jah 1-2% equity küsimus. Halvasti mängisin, et end sellisesse olukorda panin. Ei suutnud piisavalt kiiresti tehteid teha, et see otsus 1-2% enda kasuks teha.

Aga K9?

[The_Meer]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

ma K9 f pre või 3b,kuna see floppab sitasti ning kui hitid oled tihti domineeritud. Ma callin ka suht laia rangega BB minraise,aga see k2si m2ngib halvasti IMO.Aga riveril ma ch-c, mis donkamise mõte on selle vastase vastu?
BTW, on minumeelest mingi 80% regularidel see teema, et kui nad lähevad 4b callima pre,siis nad kasutavad suuremat sizingut,kui 4b foldima, samamoodi on 3b pottides regide omavahelised betsizingud suuremad vastvalat k2e tugevusele,obv fishi vastu pohh,mida teed. Ple seda t2hele pand?

[HerrJanks]

Re: [NL100 SH] muttaja

Mis regi steal on btnilt?