[PLO 100-200] muttaja

[runnar]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Täna tegin kaks natuke idiootset kätt ka. Tegelikult oli mõlema eesmärk vastast bluffima saada, aga noh, tuli välja, et neil suht nutsud käes. Ehk ma vast üritan natuke liialt valuet võtta, kus näen seda vähegi olemas.

http://lifewithfacecards.tumblr.com/post/23727587907/when-i-take-the-perfect-line-to-get-max-value

(Klõpsa sisu nägemiseks / peitmiseks)

[rrrr]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

HM2 graafiku disain on küll õudus kuubis (kribu ja värvide poolest loetamatu) aga kas seal HM2-s võrreldes HM1-ga midagi head ka on, mida 6-max Zoomis kasutada?

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Sisuliselt ei ole. Teoreetiliselt saad küll vaadata statse, kuidas villane konreetselt sinu vastu on mänginud, aga üldjuhul on see sample nii väike, et sellele tuginedes võib pigem kahju kui kasu saada.

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Kohe alustan kolmetunnise sessiooniga. Vaim on küll valmis jatunne tugev hoolimata varasematest kaotustest. Näis aint, mida EV teeb :P

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

20 minti mängin veel ja olen vist nullis, aga pean mainima, et postitsioonist min 4bet for victory :)

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Sõnusin nullis olemise ära; über niti vastu just AA vs KK riverisse K...

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Mina lendan vastase top range otsa ja vastased lendavad minu top range otsa. Erinevus on see, et nemad võidavad, mina aga mitte. Nukker on mu elu.

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Nojah, sama rida siis jätkub nagu seni: -450 ja ev +400.

Teadjamad mehed võiksid seletada, kuidas selliste tulemuste peale mitte tilti minna, kui ma tean, et ma biidin ja tegelikult on hetkel ka päris heas vormis. Ent iga päev sama jama ajab ka kõige selgema pea hulluks.

[udikaz]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

vb tõmbaks vahelduseks tsipa nitimaks. ei tekitaks endale nii palju mõtlemist vajavaid olukordi. saaks kindluse uuesti kätte. just ideo tho.

[winnieTHEpooh]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

ma võtaks paar päeva-nädala vabaks, või kui rolli+motti on siis grindi läbi see variatsioon, teeb ju tugevamaks sind või võta aega maha veits ja vaata käsi üle, mängi mõni mtt vms.. vähemalt mina teeks emba-kumba

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Panin kõik kus stäkist lahti sain, siia nüüd üles:

1. käsi. Villane täiesti tundmatu ja min 4bet tundus jube kahtlane. Kaotasin, pole hullu.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $291.62 (145.8 bb)
SB: $647.18 (323.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $216.60 (108.3 bb)
UTG: $277.76 (138.9 bb)
MP: $214.66 (107.3 bb)
CO: $98.80 (49.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
UTG raises to $4, 2 folds, BTN calls $4, SB folds, Hero raises to $20, UTG raises to $36, BTN folds, Hero calls $16

Flop: ($77) 5 6 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $15, UTG raises to $40, Hero raises to $180.60 and is all-in, UTG calls $140.60

Turn: ($438.20) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($438.20) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $438.20 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 5 6 2 T 9
Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$216.60 net)
UTG showed A A and won $435.40 ($218.80 net)


2. käsi. Open 4betil respecti eriti ei anna ja KK stäkin nagunii alati ära. Ei tuld ära.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (BTN): $212.74 (106.4 bb)
SB: $222.74 (111.4 bb)
BB: $100 (50 bb)
UTG: $402.20 (201.1 bb)
MP: $400.11 (200.1 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
UTG folds, MP raises to $6, CO folds, Hero raises to $18, SB raises to $44, 2 folds, Hero raises to $212.74 and is all-in, SB calls $168.74

Flop: ($433.48) 3 T 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($433.48) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($433.48) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $433.48 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 T 2 J T
Hero showed K K and lost (-$212.74 net)
SB showed J J and won $430.68 ($217.94 net)


3. käsi. Too oli tõenäoliselt tildine. Samas kui ma juba 4beti peale läksin, siis teadsin, et callin ka shove ära.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $200 (100 bb)
SB: $244.89 (122.4 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $140.32 (70.2 bb)
MP: $214.19 (107.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $216.94 (108.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q A
2 folds, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BB raises to $20, Hero raises to $40, BB raises to $200 and is all-in, Hero calls $160

Flop: ($401) T 5 Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($401) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($401) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $401 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: T 5 Q 7 8
BB showed K K and won $398.20 ($198.20 net)
Hero showed Q A and lost (-$200 net)


4. käsi. Ässasid ei foldi. Ei tuld ära.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
SB: $635.97 (318 bb)
BB: $246.07 (123 bb)
UTG: $221.16 (110.6 bb)
MP: $687.80 (343.9 bb)
CO: $59.34 (29.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
UTG raises to $5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $16, 2 folds, UTG raises to $38, Hero raises to $200 and is all-in, UTG calls $162

Flop: ($403) 3 4 Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($403) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($403) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $403 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 4 Q 7 K
Hero showed A A and lost (-$200 net)
UTG showed K K and won $400.20 ($200.20 net)


5. käsi. sama, mis eelmine:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $100 (50 bb)
SB: $245.49 (122.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $735.80 (367.9 bb)
MP: $163.98 (82 bb)
CO: $610.81 (305.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
4 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $18, SB raises to $42, Hero raises to $200 and is all-in, SB calls $158

Flop: ($400) 8 9 Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($400) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($400) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $400 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 8 9 Q J K
SB showed Q Q and won $397.20 ($197.20 net)
Hero showed A A and lost (-$200 net)




6. käsi. Villane on mulle palju peavalu valmistanud. Üli kõrge 3betiga mängib. Flop mulle sobis ja stäkkisin ära. Raha ei saand.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $154 (77 bb)
SB: $360.88 (180.4 bb)
BB: $209.65 (104.8 bb)
Hero (UTG): $200 (100 bb)
MP: $188.82 (94.4 bb)
CO: $211.96 (106 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J A
Hero raises to $6, MP folds, CO raises to $18, 3 folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($39) 3 4 A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $20, Hero raises to $48, CO raises to $193.96 and is all-in, Hero calls $134 and is all-in

Turn: ($403) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($403) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $403 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 4 A Q T
Hero showed J A and lost (-$200 net)
CO showed 8 A and won $400.20 ($200.20 net)

7. käsi. Kena turn. Ei foldi.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $239.25 (119.6 bb)
SB: $762.90 (381.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $87 (43.5 bb)
MP: $821.19 (410.6 bb)
CO: $218.34 (109.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
3 folds, BTN raises to $6, SB folds, Hero raises to $20, BTN calls $14

Flop: ($41) K 6 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $19.58, BTN calls $19.58

Turn: ($80.16) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $42.42, BTN raises to $199.67 and is all-in, Hero calls $118.00 and is all-in

River: ($401) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $401 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: K 6 7 9 6
BTN showed 9 9 and won $398.20 ($198.20 net)
Hero showed A A and lost (-$200 net)

8. käsi. Halvasti mängitud. Ei tea, mis preflop ära ei stäkkind. Ei old sel hetkel kindlasti tildine ka.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $551.42 (275.7 bb)
SB: $713.78 (356.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $205.87 (102.9 bb)
UTG: $123.95 (62 bb)
MP: $203 (101.5 bb)
CO: $345.13 (172.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
UTG calls $2, MP folds, CO raises to $10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $26, UTG folds, CO raises to $42, Hero calls $16

Flop: ($87) A 5 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $29, Hero calls $29

Turn: ($145) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($145) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $274.13 and is all-in, Hero calls $134.87 and is all-in

Results: $414.74 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A 5 4 3 9
Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$205.87 net)
CO showed T A and won $411.94 ($206.07 net)

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

vb tõmbaks vahelduseks tsipa nitimaks. ei tekitaks endale nii palju mõtlemist vajavaid olukordi. saaks kindluse uuesti kätte. just ideo tho.

Nitimaks üritan jah võtta. Samas ei tea, kust sellega peale hakata.

[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Päris kenasti olen enda kojhta juunis volüümi andnud



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[muttaja]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

Halleluuja! Õhtuse sessiga 6BI üles ja jooksin ka ca buyinni üle EV!

2400 käe koht vaid üks kaotus, kus kogu BI läks, aga see oli üpris paratamatu ka:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $588.32 (294.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $201 (100.5 bb)
BB: $211.42 (105.7 bb)
UTG: $100 (50 bb)
MP: $198 (99 bb)
CO: $314.63 (157.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q A
3 folds, BTN raises to $6, Hero raises to $18, BB folds, BTN calls $12

Flop: ($38) Q 8 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $22.21, BTN calls $22.21

Turn: ($82.42) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $44.12, BTN calls $44.12

River: ($170.66) A (2 players)
Hero bets $116.67 and is all-in, BTN calls $116.67

Results: $404 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: Q 8 4 8 A
BTN showed 5 8 and won $401.20 ($200.20 net)
Hero showed Q A and lost (-$201 net)

Ja üks võidukäsi ka, kus vb midagi õppida:

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $204 (102 bb)
SB: $548.42 (274.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $449.99 (225 bb)
MP: $270.45 (135.2 bb)
CO: $119.96 (60 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 9
UTG raises to $6, 4 folds, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($13) 3 Q 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.88, UTG raises to $22, Hero raises to $48.82, UTG calls $26.82

Turn: ($110.64) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $91.66, Hero raises to $145.18 and is all-in, UTG calls $53.52

River: ($401) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $401 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 3 Q 9 2 J
Hero showed 9 9 and won $398.20 ($198.20 net)
UTG showed A Q and lost (-$200 net)

[The_Meer]

Re: muttaja; zooom-zoooom

kuidas sa ise vastase asemel seda kätt mängiks. Flopil repid sa suht kitsast ranget, mis teda biidib. Vb teatud juhtudel on sul siin ka AA,KK ka ,kuna positsioonid on siin sellised. Kas vastasel on mõistlik turni bettida, sest oletame, et sul on mingi draw,siis reeglina sa betid seda turnil ise?